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Looks like overpopulation won't happen after all

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It is true that humanity has grown from 1 billion in 1800 to 6 billion in 2000, just 200 years. And it is also true that the earth has a limited amount of resources.

However, it is also true that UN predictions shows that fertility rates are going down in nearly every country in the world.

In this webpage, it shows population increasing but is doing so at a gradually decreasing rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._(United_Nat ions,_medium_fertility_variant)

The human population may never double from 2000, toppling off at 11 billion and a majority of the population growth in the 21st century is expected to be from Africa. By 2100, Africa will have the same population density as China today and you never seem to hear of mass starvation in that country.

Here's a video by Kurgesgt in a nutshell

 
Science makes that pretty irrelevant...what does matter is how many die of starvation and at the hands of microbes...we will see very large die offs.

Radiation die offs are likely as well, as one way or another nuclear war or terrorism is almost certain to take place in the coming decades.
 
The more developed a country becomes the lower its birth rate becomes. So it makes sense that as time goes by our rate of growth will decrease. From a purely selfish perspective it is in the best interests of the first world nations to help the developing nations catch up.
 
Masterhawk said:
It is true that humanity has grown from 1 billion in 1800 to 6 billion in 2000, just 200 years. And it is also true that the earth has a limited amount of resources.

However, it is also true that UN predictions shows that fertility rates are going down in nearly every country in the world.

In this webpage, it shows population increasing but is doing so at a gradually decreasing rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._(United_Nat ions,_medium_fertility_variant)

The human population may never double from 2000, toppling off at 11 billion and a majority of the population growth in the 21st century is expected to be from Africa. By 2100, Africa will have the same population density as China today and you never seem to hear of mass starvation in that country.

Here's a video by Kurgesgt in a nutshell

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Another liberal/progressive big idea and paralyzing fear goes down in flames
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Science makes that pretty irrelevant...what does matter is how many die of starvation and at the hands of microbes...we will see very large die offs.

Radiation die offs are likely as well, as one way or another nuclear war or terrorism is almost certain to take place in the coming decades.
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that is the result of poverty, not overpopulation
 
Masterhawk said:
It is true that humanity has grown from 1 billion in 1800 to 6 billion in 2000, just 200 years. And it is also true that the earth has a limited amount of resources.

However, it is also true that UN predictions shows that fertility rates are going down in nearly every country in the world.

In this webpage, it shows population increasing but is doing so at a gradually decreasing rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._(United_Nat ions,_medium_fertility_variant)

The human population may never double from 2000, toppling off at 11 billion and a majority of the population growth in the 21st century is expected to be from Africa. By 2100, Africa will have the same population density as China today and you never seem to hear of mass starvation in that country.

Here's a video by Kurgesgt in a nutshell

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You do know that our society knew all that in the 1970s? The resources available and technological advances have been enough to keep us okay so far. But we really do not know the future and there are some unanswered questions about how we will fare with an 11 million population.
 
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joG said:
You do know that our society knew all that in the 1970s? The resources available and technological advances have been enough to keep us okay so far. But we really do not know the future and there are some unanswered questions about how we will fare with an 11 million population.
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At 7 billion with all the land area except Antarctica, we are at 56 people per km2 which is somewhere in between the density of yemen and Equatorial new guinea. At 11 billion, this will increase to 88 people per km2 or a little more than Cambodia's. Many European countries have an even higher population density yet seem to be doing fine.
 
Masterhawk said:
At 7 billion with all the land area except Antarctica, we are at 56 people per km2 which is somewhere in between the density of yemen and Equatorial new guinea. At 11 billion, this will increase to 88 people per km2 or a little more than Cambodia's. Many European countries have an even higher population density yet seem to be doing fine.
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It is quite a different problem, of which you speak. The global footprint is not the same as the local one.
 
joG said:
It is quite a different problem, of which you speak. The global footprint is not the same as the local one.
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You are talking gibberish.

There is plenty of resources if we are well organised. Say in a modern capitalist state.
 
Tim the plumber said:

You are talking gibberish.

There is plenty of resources if we are well organised. Say in a modern capitalist state.
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There are people that believe that.
 
Tim the plumber said:

And there are prices of comodities that keep dropping.

I suppose you are still smarting from the peak oil not happening thing.
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I didn't say there wasn't plenty left for me.
 
Water or the lack of it is the next world war.
 
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