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In Russia, They Tore Down Lots of Statues, but Little Changed

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In Russia, They Tore Down Lots of Statues, but Little Changed - The New York Times

“Waging war on bronze men doesn’t make your life any more moral or just,” one observer noted. “It does nothing really.”

MOSCOW — Elated by the defeat of a hard-line Communist coup in August 1991, thousands of mostly young Muscovites gathered in front of the K.G.B. headquarters and argued over how best to seal their victory with a bold, symbolic act.

After some discussion, recalled Sergei B. Parkhomenko, then a young journalist covering the scene, the crowd turned its passion — more euphoria than anger, he said — on the statue of Felix Dzerzhinsky, the ruthless founder of the Soviet secret police, which stood in a traffic circle in front of the Lubyanka, the forbidding stone building that housed the K.G.B.

The removal of the statue, accomplished with help from a crane sent by Moscow city authorities, was greeted with cries of “Down with the K.G.B.” and sent a powerful message that change had finally come to Russia.
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Nearly 30 years later, Russia is ruled by a former K.G.B. officer, President Vladimir V. Putin, and Dzerzhinsky is honored with a bust outside the Moscow city police headquarters. Taking it out on statues changes very little.
 
It doesn’t matter in Russia because russia doesn’t even matter to Russians any more.
 
In Russia, They Tore Down Lots of Statues, but Little Changed - The New York Times

“Waging war on bronze men doesn’t make your life any more moral or just,” one observer noted. “It does nothing really.”

MOSCOW — Elated by the defeat of a hard-line Communist coup in August 1991, thousands of mostly young Muscovites gathered in front of the K.G.B. headquarters and argued over how best to seal their victory with a bold, symbolic act.

After some discussion, recalled Sergei B. Parkhomenko, then a young journalist covering the scene, the crowd turned its passion — more euphoria than anger, he said — on the statue of Felix Dzerzhinsky, the ruthless founder of the Soviet secret police, which stood in a traffic circle in front of the Lubyanka, the forbidding stone building that housed the K.G.B.

The removal of the statue, accomplished with help from a crane sent by Moscow city authorities, was greeted with cries of “Down with the K.G.B.” and sent a powerful message that change had finally come to Russia.
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Nearly 30 years later, Russia is ruled by a former K.G.B. officer, President Vladimir V. Putin, and Dzerzhinsky is honored with a bust outside the Moscow city police headquarters. Taking it out on statues changes very little.

This is true...without telling the story of why they were torn down, and using that story to shape your society going forward, it's only a symbolic act.

I'd like to think that this kind of education would take better root in the more fertile soil of America than Russia, but these days, who knows?
 
It doesnt solve the problem but tearing down statues of confederate generals is correcting history and brings about more knowledge that those statues were put up to create a fake history. Those monuments were only erected to “show black people their place” tearing them down is a good thing.
 
Russia is no longer communist unlike its Asian allies such as China and North Korea, which are increasingly more dangerous than Russia. Communism is totally discredited in Russia because a lot of statues from the Soviet era have been torn down since the 1990s. A Russian communist businessman has unveiled a monument of Josef Stalin this year that local authorities dubbed illegal.

 
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Russia is no longer communist unlike its Asian allies such as China and North Korea, which are increasingly more dangerous than Russia. Communism is totally discredited in Russia because a lot of statues from the Soviet era have been torn down since the 1990s. A Russian communist businessman has unveiled a monument of Josef Stalin this year that local authorities dubbed illegal.





Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler did.

Collectivization of the farmers which led to millions dying of famine. Then to get people to stop complaining about the collectivization, Stalin started killing his critics.

There are a lot of blood splatter confessions in the Kremlin archives.
 
Russia is no longer communist unlike its Asian allies such as China and North Korea, which are increasingly more dangerous than Russia. Communism is totally discredited in Russia because a lot of statues from the Soviet era have been torn down since the 1990s. A Russian communist businessman has unveiled a monument of Josef Stalin this year that local authorities dubbed illegal.



The Communist Party is the second largest party in Russia.

Putin is doing his very best to rehabilitate Stalin.
 
In 2016, Ukraine 'decommunized'. Locations with Communist names had to be changed and Communist statute's came down.

51,493 streets and 987 cities and villages were renamed, and 1,320 Lenin monuments and 1,069 monuments to other communist figures were removed.

I think the country is better for it. Why commemorate individuals/party responsible for murdering millions?
 
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