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As Ukraine shuts down, its citizens come to terms with coronavirus

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As Ukraine shuts down, its citizens come to terms with coronavirus

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3/19/20
Ukraine is slowly shutting down. Bars and restaurants, usually full of life, are almost empty or completely closed, because of a recent ban imposed by the country's government to close everything except pharmacies, banks, and supermarkets. "I do support what the government is doing, but I worry about the economy. We would like to have a better understanding of why these things are happening. I had to close my small business because of the threat of the virus." said Sergei Gikaviy, 36, from Kyiv. Ukraine has, like other countries, seen some panic buying in the supermarkets where people hunt for food and toilet paper, but it has only been sporadic, and most supermarkets still have plenty of supplies. The Ukrainian government has been telling people to stay inside and is considering imposing a state of emergency. But it has not done so at this point. Instead, the government has closed metros, trains and restricted the number of bus passengers. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the nation on Monday, saying that the government "will act in a tough, urgent, perhaps unpopular manner" to protect its citizens. However, some say it is too much. "The quarantine is very popular among some people, but some people don't want limits on their ordinary lives," says Aleksey Jakubin, associate professor at Kyiv Polytechnic Institute, "They are worried about the economy. Many people live paycheck to paycheck, and this quarantine and potential emergency law, will have a huge influence on their daily life." He explains that Ukrainians have a limited public safety net compared to Western Europe, and Ukrainians' perception of the seriousness of the coronavirus is primarily determined by how much money they have. "We have a divide between classes. The people with not so much money are the majority, and the economy is much more important for them than quarantine," Jakubin says, "We also have people who want the government to do more, but they are a minority. We, therefore, see a lot of opposition to the government's steps to close the metros in Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Dnipro – it will be hard for people to get around."

Ukraine closed air travel Tuesday morning, and many Ukrainians have flocked back to their homeland last minute from overseas. In 2009, Ukraine experienced some of the worsts outbreaks of swine flu in Europe, where almost two million Ukrainians fell ill, and around 500 people lost their lives. People responded with panic back then, Jakubin explains, but it is different from coronavirus so far, and it has something to do with the lower amount of reported cases. Sergii Mirnyi is a former liquidator who cleaned up after the Chernobyl disaster and was the platoon commander of Chornobyl radiation reconnaissance. He sees many similarities between the 1986 Chernobyl accident and coronavirus in the way people react to the threat, he explains. "Coronavirus is also danger that we cannot see," says Mirnyi, who has since has worked on expanding the understanding of Chernobyl as both owner of a tourist company and as a researcher. "The virus is, of course, different from the issue of radiation, but there are similarities when it comes to people's social and psychological reactions. Both are not easy to see and understand for people," he says. "There are many rumors about coronavirus. The same thing happened with Chernobyl," he says, "People only took Chernobyl seriously when they could see its effects. While Chernobyl was a much bigger catastrophe, the two things are similar, because we cannot see the enemy. If - God forbid - dozens of deaths will come to Ukraine from corona, people will start to take it very seriously."

Like everywhere else, Ukraine closed its borders and is shutting down. Never very well off financially, this jolt to the economy will have a profound impact on the working class. Strangely enough, most of the oligarchs have remained in-country. I honestly don't know how transparent the Zelenskyy government will be. It is fundamentally important that they remain upbeat and convey an "in-charge" persona. But the spike-numbers may be impossible to hide. Ukraine's healthcare system is improved due to the war and an influx of equipment and medical personnel from abroad.
 
Lubomira Mandziy was appointed interim Minister of education and science of Ukraine.
In 2018, she was one of the organizers of a competition dedicated to SS men from the Waffen SS division "Galicia". Only scoundrels in the government. Guaranteed!
 
Lubomira Mandziy was appointed interim Minister of education and science of Ukraine.
In 2018, she was one of the organizers of a competition dedicated to SS men from the Waffen SS division "Galicia". Only scoundrels in the government. Guaranteed!

Citation?
 
Citation?

You see, I do this kind of research for money, do you need my bank account numbers? If you poor, just go to Google and it give you this "secret" information for free. And it is better not to go, all you need to know is that only scum get to power in modern Ukraine.
 
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You see, I do this kind of research for money, do you need my bank account numbers? If you poor, just go to Google and it give you this "secret" information for free. And it is better not to go, all you need to know is that only scum get to power in modern Ukraine.

As always with you, propaganda without proof. Ergo ... Communist hot air.
 
The Rada of Ukraine is going to finance the Maidan museum for 26 million hryvnias. This is important, oh yes!
If anything, at least the tombstone will remain in place of the country.

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No, it's not fake. And not a compliment at all.
 
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Still no citation. A troll post.
 
Looks like Ukraine's now even more vulnerable to extortion. Time for the mango menace to make another "perfect" phone call :roll:
 
Looks like Ukraine's now even more vulnerable to extortion. Time for the mango menace to make another "perfect" phone call :roll:

I think that ship has sailed. Coronavirus has hit the Trump administration like a 2x4 upside the head.
 
I think that ship has sailed. Coronavirus has hit the Trump administration like a 2x4 upside the head.

Which is surprising because he saw it coming and denied it - well - I guess that's not that surprising. I'm thinking that in the fall there are going to be a lot of medical professionals and their families, even in red states campaigning against trump like nobody's ever seen!
 
Which is surprising because he saw it coming and denied it - well - I guess that's not that surprising. I'm thinking that in the fall there are going to be a lot of medical professionals and their families, even in red states campaigning against trump like nobody's ever seen!

I've already seen a political ad - by Republican voters - saying they will not be voting for Trump come November. The pandemic dysfunction is the last straw.
 
I've already seen a political ad - by Republican voters - saying they will not be voting for Trump come November. The pandemic dysfunction is the last straw.

Interesting interview with a Republican Strategist, Stuart Stevens. He just wrote a book lamenting his contribution to what the Republican party has become. He talks about their use of racism, their assault on truth, belittling of education, and abdication of personal responsibility. In short, he's embarrassed about what his party has become. He said the only way the party will change is terror - when they start to lose.

 
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