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Two Ukrainian Soldiers Killed Over Bloody Weekend In Donbas

Rogue Valley said:
Semantics. Ask Igor Strelkov/Girkin.

Vladislav Surkov had the Kremlin's Ukraine portfolio 2014-2020, but was recently replaced (Dmitry Kozak) when Putin shuffled his cabinet.
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The war is not making any progress but both sides have shown ignorance in peace deals
 
TypicalRussian said:
The war is not making any progress but both sides have shown ignorance in peace deals
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Ukraine did not invade Russian territory.

Peace would have a far better chance if the Kremlin withdrew her forces/weaponry and returned the 410km of occupied border to Ukraine.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Ukraine did not invade Russian territory.

Peace would have a far better chance if the Kremlin withdrew her forces/weaponry and returned the 410km of occupied border to Ukraine.
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It Took 6 Years For 2014 Maidan Coup Truth to Cross the Atlantic

Do you realize how corrupt Ukraine really is? An impeachment just happened over the country, the country is in deep trouble and AMerica and russia need to find a solution, eace would have a far better chanche if AMerica withdrew it's corruptness, this is why there is war
 
Rogue Valley said:
Yes, I have lived in Ukraine. But the Ukraine of Viktor Yanukovych is not the Ukraine of Volodmyr Zelenskyy.

The bigger question is, do you realize how corrupt the Putin regime is?
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Do you realize how corrupt America is?
 
TypicalRussian said:
Do you realize how corrupt America is?
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Every nation has corruption. Even the Vatican.

Something you and your ilk conveniently forget to mention when discussing Ukraine.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Every nation has corruption. Even the Vatican.

Something you and your ilk conveniently forget to mention when discussing Ukraine.
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Ok, so you aren't going to make a effort to help recongize corruption
 
Rogue Valley said:
I do that everyday here.
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You do realize I know your bad mouthing me on the Another Russian Troll thread and I can't access it

But i dont really care, I win arguments here
 
TypicalRussian said:
You do realize I know your bad mouthing me on the Another Russian Troll thread and I can't access it

But i dont really care, I win arguments here
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I alerted the community as I promised you I would.

You haven't won one argument yet that I can detect.
 
Lviv and Ternopil are building roadblocks and barricades to prevent ukrainians from being brought to them from infected China.
Now probably many people regret that they did not build roadblocks and barricades near Kiev in 2014, so as not to let the infection from Lviv and Ternopil enter the city...
 
Rogue Valley said:
I alerted the community as I promised you I would.

You haven't won one argument yet that I can detect.
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Actually he and Ringo wins against you all the time, you just fail to notice it.
 
Ringo Stalin said:
This is not a shot from a movie about zombies or the planet of the apes, this is the Ukrainian Nazis removing a memorial plaque in Odessa to the war hero Marshal Zhukov, under whose leadership the Red army took Berlin.
P.S. Of course. there are no Nazis in Ukraine!

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Russia invading Ukraine- that's a good one!

The Maidan revolution which bought about the coup of the elected president was about
bringing democracy to Ukraine...or something. Right? No way, what it did was alienate the people
of Donetsk and Lugansk who, having a president THEY voted for, rather thought Ukraine had a democracy already.

Their president was removed - replaced with an interim president who tried to ban their language and appointed
billionaire governors of the eastern regions without elections - and then burned alive the people of Odessa who protested.
East Ukraine, at this point, got it's taste of the new "Ukrainian democracy and freedom" and found they did not care for it.
 
Let's get the story correct. Russia wanted no war with Ukraine. If Russia wanted to invade Ukraine
they would be on the Dneiper River within a week & be at Lviv the real heartland
of the coup within a fortnight. Russia merely aided the 3 eastern provinces.


In the last legitimate election 2010 the following Provinces voted accordingly:
Crimea Yanukovich 78.24% Tymoshenko 17.31%
Donetsk region Yanukovich 90.44% Tymoshenko 6.45%
Luhansk region Yanukovich 88.96% Tymoshenko 7.72%
 
PoS said:
Actually he and Ringo wins against you all the time, you just fail to notice it.
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Go back to your fantasy book garbage.
 
Rogue Valley said:
I alerted the community as I promised you I would.

You haven't won one argument yet that I can detect.
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You allerted the community that I am a russian troll and you are clearly using ad hominem
 
Оrdinary fascism
Levy confessa i crimini ucraini, involontariamente | Contropiano

Сomputer translation from italian:
On 19 February the newspaper La Stampa published an article by the famous French philosopher and politician Bernard-Henri Levy. The article contains an account of his recent trip to Ukraine and the tour carried out together with the army along the front line in the Donbass.

Leaving aside any judgment on the author, the article and the meaning of the journey, it should be pointed out that this gives us (unintentionally) a very valuable data: Levy testifies to a serious war crime committed by the Ukrainians.

In his report, Levy tells of moving with soldiers and claims to travel along the front line with " a fake ambulance, armored, covered in red crosses."

This is unacceptable and must be severely punished, because the Geneva Convention prohibits this kind of gimmick. Using medical signs to conduct military operations as well as a properly normalized crime, is also something reprehensible from a human point of view.

For many years now there has been a rumour that the Ukrainian army was using medical means to move troops and conduct military operations. Not only does Levy's report confirm this, but it is a further leap in quality: no longer sanitary means used for operations, but armored means disguised as sanitary means. Another case in which the (sad) reality exceeds the imagination.

But this helps us to understand the real dynamics of the facts that sometimes seem too petty to be possible. On the battlefield Ukraine has criminal and immoral conduct, something that is constantly confirmed to us by the facts (the most striking case is the constant indiscriminate bombing of civilian buildings), but on which the international community does not want to take a stand. The reason is known and lies in the fact that often values are bent to geopolitical convenience: our governments are making a game in which you can only lose, both the game and your own identity.

It must also be remembered that in Donbass, the OSCE has deployed its own observers on the ground who should be monitoring precisely such events. At this point there is no excuse that holds: the crime, already several times reported, has been involuntarily confessed and therefore it is not enough to open some inconclusive investigation. If the OSCE wants to save face, intervene as quickly and resolutely as possible. If this were not the case, not only would the OSCE lose its credibility even further, but above all, international law and peace would be seriously affected.

This time we cannot pretend that we do not know, we must put an end to these crimes and punish those responsible.
 
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