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    Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscovite

    Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Bandera´s monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscovite empire´s borders . bad news for TV.ru propagandacondoms



    "The mayor of Ivano-Frankivsk Ruslan Martsinkiv announced the start of fundraising for a monument to the ideologist and theorist of the Ukrainian nationalist movement of the 20th century Stepan Bandera.
    He urged residents of his city and all citizens of Ukraine to donate funds to the monument, which will subsequently be donated to the Ukrainian city of Konotop, located about a hundred kilometers from the Russian border, in the east of the country.


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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov

    Quote Originally Posted by Litwin View Post
    Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Bandera´s monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscovite empire´s borders . bad news for TV.ru propagandacondoms



    "The mayor of Ivano-Frankivsk Ruslan Martsinkiv announced the start of fundraising for a monument to the ideologist and theorist of the Ukrainian nationalist movement of the 20th century Stepan Bandera.
    He urged residents of his city and all citizens of Ukraine to donate funds to the monument, which will subsequently be donated to the Ukrainian city of Konotop, located about a hundred kilometers from the Russian border, in the east of the country.


    ..."https://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. svoboda.org%2Fa%2F30381108.html
    “OUN leaders Andriy Melnyk and Bandera were recruited before World War II into the Nazi Germany military intelligence Abwehr for espionage, counter-espionage and sabotage. Their goal was to run diversion activities after Germany's attack on the Soviet Union. Melnyk was given code name 'Consul I'. This information is part of the testimony that Abwehr Colonel Erwin Stolze gave on 25 December 1945 and submitted to the Nuremberg trials, with a request to be admitted as evidence.[43][44]

    In the spring of 1941, Bandera held meetings with the heads of Germany's intelligence, regarding the formation of "Nachtigall" and "Roland" Battalions. In spring of that year the OUN received 2.5 million marks for subversive activities inside the USSR.[41][45][46]

    Gestapo and Abwehr officials protected Bandera followers, as both organizations intended to use them for their own purposes.[47]

    On 30 June 1941, with the arrival of Nazi troops in Ukraine, Bandera and the OUN-B declared an independent Ukrainian State ("Act of Renewal of Ukrainian Statehood").[48] This declaration was accompanied by violent pogroms.[48] Some of the published proclamations of the formation of this state say that it would "work closely with the National-Socialist Greater Germany, under the leadership of its leader Adolf Hitler which is forming a new order in Europe and the world and is helping the Ukrainian People to free itself from Moscovite occupation." – as stated in the text of the "Act of Proclamation of Ukrainian Statehood".[41][46]”

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    Maybe next the mayor can put up a statue of Heinrich Himmler

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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov

    "1941...free itself from Moscovite occupation." – as stated in the text of the "Act of Proclamation of Ukrainian Statehood".[41][46]” and what has happened then with entire Bandera leadership OUN? use the same source , please

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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov

    Quote Originally Posted by Litwin View Post
    "1941...free itself from Moscovite occupation." – as stated in the text of the "Act of Proclamation of Ukrainian Statehood".[41][46]” and what has happened then with entire Bandera leadership OUN? use the same source , please
    They wound up fighting for the Germans again.

    “In April 1944, Bandera and his deputy Yaroslav Stetsko were approached by a Reich Main Security Office official to discuss plans for diversions and sabotage against the Soviet Army.[51]

    In September 1944[52] Bandera was released by the German authorities, and collaboration between OUN and Nazi Germany resumed at several levels;[48] it continued until the end of the war.[48] With German consent, Bandera set up headquarters in Berlin.[53]”

    So apparently he wasn’t particularly ill treated considering he was more than willing to continue working with the Nazis.

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    “Glory to Hitler! Glory to Bandera!”

    Not only that, but even after the war former SS men worked for him.

    “Bandera himself was the target of an extensive and aggressive search carried out by CIC.[56] It failed having described the objective as "extremely dangerous" and "constantly en route, frequently in disguise".[57] Some American intelligence reported that he even was guarded by former SS men.[58] His organization perpetrated many crimes, including hundred of thousands of murders,[48] counterfeiting, and kidnapping.”

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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post
    They wound up fighting for the Germans again.

    “In April 1944, Bandera and his deputy Yaroslav Stetsko were approached by a Reich Main Security Office official to discuss plans for diversions and sabotage against the Soviet Army.[51]

    In September 1944[52] Bandera was released by the German authorities, and collaboration between OUN and Nazi Germany resumed at several levels;[48] it continued until the end of the war.[48] With German consent, Bandera set up headquarters in Berlin.[53]”

    So apparently he wasn’t particularly ill treated considering he was more than willing to continue working with the Nazis.

    File:UNRA sl.jpg - Wikipedia

    “Glory to Hitler! Glory to Bandera!”

    Not only that, but even after the war former SS men worked for him.

    “Bandera himself was the target of an extensive and aggressive search carried out by CIC.[56] It failed having described the objective as "extremely dangerous" and "constantly en route, frequently in disguise".[57] Some American intelligence reported that he even was guarded by former SS men.[58] His organization perpetrated many crimes, including hundred of thousands of murders,[48] counterfeiting, and kidnapping.”
    Bandera cultivated German military circles favorable to Ukrainian independence, and organized OUN expeditionary groups. When Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union he prepared the 30 June 1941 Proclamation of Ukrainian statehood in Lviv.[3] For his refusal to rescind the decree, Bandera was arrested by Gestapo, which put him under house arrest on 5 of July 1941[4] and later, between 1942 and 1943,[5] sent him to the Sachsenhausen concentration camp.[6] In 1944, with Germany rapidly losing ground in the war in the face of the advancing Allied armies, Bandera was released, in the hope that he would be instrumental in deterring the advancing Soviet forces. He set up the headquarters of the re-established Ukrainian Supreme Liberation Council, which worked underground. He settled with his family in West Germany where he remained the leader of the OUN-B and worked with several anti-communist organizations such as the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations[7][8] as well as with the British intelligence agencies.[7] Fourteen years after the end of the war, in 1959, Bandera was assassinated by KGB agents in Munich
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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Bandera cultivated German military circles favorable to Ukrainian independence, and organized OUN expeditionary groups. When Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union he prepared the 30 June 1941 Proclamation of Ukrainian statehood in Lviv.[3] For his refusal to rescind the decree, Bandera was arrested by Gestapo, which put him under house arrest on 5 of July 1941[4] and later, between 1942 and 1943,[5] sent him to the Sachsenhausen concentration camp.[6] In 1944, with Germany rapidly losing ground in the war in the face of the advancing Allied armies, Bandera was released, in the hope that he would be instrumental in deterring the advancing Soviet forces. He set up the headquarters of the re-established Ukrainian Supreme Liberation Council, which worked underground. He settled with his family in West Germany where he remained the leader of the OUN-B and worked with several anti-communist organizations such as the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations[7][8] as well as with the British intelligence agencies.[7] Fourteen years after the end of the war, in 1959, Bandera was assassinated by KGB agents in Munich
    You missed the relevant part(s)

    He can’t have possibly been particularly ill treated if he was willing to go right back to happily working with the Nazis....which is what he did.

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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov

    "He can’t have possibly been particularly ill treated" OK, 2 more questions : do you have siblings ? are close ?

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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov



    Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman upheld his oath. Donald Trump has not.

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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov

    Quote Originally Posted by Litwin View Post
    "He can’t have possibly been particularly ill treated" OK, 2 more questions : do you have siblings ? are close ?
    He literally worked enthusiastically with the Nazis for years even after being released.

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    Re: Facing the Kremlin. Stepan Banderas monument will be installed a hundred kilometers from Muscov

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post

    Coming from the folks who celebrate your local collaborators as heroes—-as this thread proves rather clearly—that’s a rather blatant case of glass houses buddy.

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