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    Re: Iran Says It Unintentionally Shot Down Ukrainian Airliner

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    Iran Says It Unintentionally Shot Down Ukrainian Airliner

    “The Islamic Republic of Iran deeply regrets this disastrous mistake,” President Hassan Rouhani said, as Iran reversed its claims that mechanical failure was to blame.


    Body bags at the crash site in Iran.



    None of these people ever expected that they would perish in a nondescript Iranian field. My deep condolences to all family, friends, and colleague's of the deceased.

    Related: Iran Says Military Shot Down Ukraine Plane in Error, After Denial Drew Scrutiny Abroad
    The question now will be did iran know about it from the getgo and lie hoping they could get away with it, or did the military brass is iran cover it up. After any such incident both the missiles launched towards iraq or the plane going down during such an attack, any military with an command structure smarter than a fruit fly will account for missiles, wat remains to be seen is if the military command admitted to firing such missiles or covered it up and got caught because of video evidence. In a country like iran you might as well expect jail or execution for such an act happening, and if intentional the brass involved might end up before a public execution as a means to scare their own brass by showing them what happens.
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    Re: Iran Says It Unintentionally Shot Down Ukrainian Airliner

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    The question now will be did iran know about it from the getgo and lie hoping they could get away with it, or did the military brass is iran cover it up.
    According to reports from Iran, the IRGC knew it was one of their Tor M1 missiles that very night.

    They came forward because international scrutiny and forensic evidence was accumulating - pictures, video's, comm intercepts, satellite data etc.

    The Iranian govt. had given permission for the US-NTSB and Boeing to come to the crash site in Iran. The flight black boxes were about to go to Ukraine for data recovery.

    I truly believe the IRGC was as horrified as everyone else when they found out it was an airliner. 82 Iranians were on board.


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    Re: Iran Says It Unintentionally Shot Down Ukrainian Airliner

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    According to reports from Iran, the IRGC knew it was one of their Tor M1 missiles that very night.

    They came forward because international scrutiny and forensic evidence was accumulating - pictures, video's, comm intercepts, satellite data etc.

    The Iranian govt. had given permission for the US-NTSB and Boeing to come to the crash site in Iran. The flight black boxes were about to go to Ukraine for data recovery.

    I truly believe the IRGC was as horrified as everyone else when they found out it was an airliner. 82 Iranians were on board.
    It was against their plan to cause casualties in the response to Suleimani's death, and this incident shot that all to hell, especially pissing off the Iranian population. Now, if only Trump would shut up about it and accept the win.

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    Re: Iran Says It Unintentionally Shot Down Ukrainian Airliner

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    The question now will be did iran know about it from the getgo....
    Of course "they" did. I'm sure the leadership also learned the details quickly. I think it is important to remember, this is the people who invented chess* and they embody the term "Machiavellian". Persians love to think strategically, and believe they are masters at it. This regime is not as smart as they think they are, but they're still in charge and won't let anyone forget that.
    Their ambitions are large and they want to control the middle East.

    *Derived from a similar Indian game.
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    Re: Iran Says It Unintentionally Shot Down Ukrainian Airliner

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    According to reports from Iran, the IRGC knew it was one of their Tor M1 missiles that very night.

    They came forward because international scrutiny and forensic evidence was accumulating - pictures, video's, comm intercepts, satellite data etc.

    The Iranian govt. had given permission for the US-NTSB and Boeing to come to the crash site in Iran. The flight black boxes were about to go to Ukraine for data recovery.

    I truly believe the IRGC was as horrified as everyone else when they found out it was an airliner. 82 Iranians were on board.
    Then that would simply mean iran lied hoping they could get away with it, though they are now promising punishment to those involved, which would indicate if what you said was true that iran got caught in a lie and is now looking for anyone to kick under the bus.
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    Re: Iran Says It Unintentionally Shot Down Ukrainian Airliner

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    Then that would simply mean iran lied hoping they could get away with it, though they are now promising punishment to those involved, which would indicate if what you said was true that iran got caught in a lie and is now looking for anyone to kick under the bus.
    That's about the size of it, yes.

    Ali Khamenei is going to require scapegoats just like Mohammad bin-Salman required scapegoats.


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