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20 Years of Vladimir Putin

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20 Years of Vladimir Putin: The Rise and Decline of a Regime

If Putin had left power in 2008, he would have gone down in history as one of Russia’s great leaders.

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2005, 2010, 2015.

8/9/19
Twenty years ago, Vladimir Putin appeared on the political Olympus in the guise of an effective bureaucrat with a security services background; a market-oriented statesman and pragmatist without ideological pretenses. Today Putin is a powerful authoritarian leader of the “strongman” type, engaged in a political confrontation with the West and an ideological struggle with global liberalism, in the service of which he is decisively sacrificing any pragmatic goals for developing the country. And even when he speaks of modernization, the conversation turns fairly quickly to armaments. If Putin had left power in 2008, he would have gone down in history as one of Russia’s most successful leaders. After 15 years of crises and upheaval in the country, a relative stability had arrived under “managed democracy, but most importantly of all, a period of intense economic growth had begun. Of course, cynics would have said that the reason for these successes was the rise in oil prices and the fact that the cycle of transformation was going through the recovery phase. And a considerable number of skeletons had already built up in the closet of this successful government by then: The second Chechen war and its consequences, the YUKOS affair, the creation of legal and commercial hybrids in the form of state corporations, among other things. But in terms of historical memory, none of this could have outweighed the atmosphere of success, a wave which Putin would have ridden out of office.

The second half of Putin’s 20 years in power, 2009–2019, has been, to a significant degree. the opposite of the first. There have been two economic crises linked to the volatility of oil prices, in 2009 and 2015, and a political crisis caused by the Moscow protests of 2011–2012, the last of which turned the regime toward an authoritarian clampdown, the domination of the security elites and decision-making that reflected their logic. This last circumstance created the trigger for the next crisis — a foreign one, linked to the annexation of Crimea and the war in eastern Ukraine. The decisions taken then were not compulsory and not the only ones available. But these decisions, which made the confrontation with the West the central feature for Russia, ultimately consolidated the domination of the security elites and silovik thinking in all spheres of state life. It is possible that all of this would have been a great success, if the emerging Putin system had demonstrated economic effectiveness, at least at a level comparable to that achieved in authoritarian Kazakhstan. But the Putin system was unable to do this. And its successes in building “effective authoritarianism” in certain spheres of government cannot compensate for this fundamental fact. In the end the objectives have turned into a naked sermon of anti-liberalism and anti-Westernism, a reevaluation of the “borders of the Russian world” — through the formation of a band of confrontation and distrust around Russia, and the building of a “nationally oriented elite” — into the absolute supremacy of the security forces and the powerful oligarchies, which constantly demand benefits, preferences and cash injections. Putin is very unlikely to abandon his efforts to de-westernize Russia. And this fruitless, from a historical perspective, tug-of-war is likely to remain the defining characteristic of the final phase of his political career.

Putin is a product of the Russian security services. Any who expected a liberal statesman out of such a moralistic morass should have known better.

Vladimir is the poster boy for the famous quote by Lord Acton; "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

Related: Vladimir Putin has dominated Russia for 20 years. Will he ever step down?
 
20 Years of Vladimir Putin: The Rise and Decline of a Regime

If Putin had left power in 2008, he would have gone down in history as one of Russia’s great leaders.

putin3.jpg

2005, 2010, 2015.



Putin is a product of the Russian security services. Any who expected a liberal statesman out of such a moralistic morass should have known better.

Vladimir is the poster boy for the famous quote by Lord Acton; "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

Related: Vladimir Putin has dominated Russia for 20 years. Will he ever step down?

Putin is a typical un Christian barbarian. Un Christian barbarians generally do more harm than good, no matter where they live or work.
 
In Soviet Russia, Putin doesn't age, his country does.
 
In Soviet Russia, Putin doesn't age, his country does.

Soviet Russia dissolved in 1991. Putin is president of the Russian Federation.

As for age, Putin is known to be familiar with Botox.
 
20 Years of Vladimir Putin: The Rise and Decline of a Regime

If Putin had left power in 2008, he would have gone down in history as one of Russia’s great leaders.

putin3.jpg

2005, 2010, 2015.



Putin is a product of the Russian security services. Any who expected a liberal statesman out of such a moralistic morass should have known better.

Vladimir is the poster boy for the famous quote by Lord Acton; "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

Related: Vladimir Putin has dominated Russia for 20 years. Will he ever step down?



By all appearances, Putin will not step down for the time being and not likely until he dies. This is one of the traits Trump admires in dictators like Putin, Kim and the Saudi Crown Prince. And probably what Erdogan is trying to do in Turkey.
 
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