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My Christian Beliefs[W:205]

Re: My Christian Beliefs

LesGovt said:


The scriptures tell us: 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

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then there is John 3:16, Romans.10:9, and then finally this:

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. - John 14:6

The scripture answers your question as "No."

From your reading of the scripture, does the scripture say no?
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When I first asked you the question you could have given a yes or no reply.
 
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HonestJoe said:
What you believe only really matters to you. How you choose to act on those beliefs is much more important because that’s when you start impacting on other people.
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Not to forget the faith one deems oneself as speaking for.
 
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Apostle of Marx said:
It always baffles me when religious people try to go out of their way to come up with some tangible evidence for god. I thought the whole fundamental premise of your religion is to have faith in God's existence, so trying to prove that God exists is sacrilegious, surely?

Also, if you're hearing voices you might want to consider seeking medical advice.
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I never hear communists, or even socialists for that matter.
 
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zyzygy said:
When I first asked you the question you could have given a yes or no reply.
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But I find it fun asking you questions. Turn about is fair play. From your reading of the scripture, does the scripture say no?
 
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LesGovt said:
I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks.
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I take it you've never heard of liberation theology then and the catholic Marxists?

Maybe you should broaden your mind a little.
 
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Apostle of Marx said:
I take it you've never heard of liberation theology then and the catholic Marxists?

Maybe you should broaden your mind a little.
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I am fine with my mind. I will still take your insults as compliments. Again, thanks!
 
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LesGovt said:
I am fine with my mind. I will still take your insults as compliments. Again, thanks!
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So does that mean you do or do not know about liberation theology and the catholic Marxists?
 
Re: My Christian Beliefs

Apostle of Marx said:
I can tell by your complete lack of reason.
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Just a quick heads up here -- because I made a similar mistake recently. This specific forum isn't really for calling others out on their religious beliefs. There is another one -- Philosophical Discussions -- and that's where we have more leeway to question beliefs/reason, etc.
 
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HowardBThiname said:
Just a quick heads up here -- because I made a similar mistake recently. This specific forum isn't really for calling others out on their religious beliefs. There is another one -- Philosophical Discussions -- and that's where we have more leeway to question beliefs/reason, etc.
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Thanks for the heads up. I guess I was responding tit-for-tat.
 
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LesGovt said:
I believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I believe in John 3:16, which says, "[SUP]16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." When it comes to religion, there are several religions that have a god. They can all be wrong in what they believe, but, if any are correct, only one can be correct. I know my Christian faith is the correct one. The fact that I know God exists upsets some people and that is okay with me. I have stated why I know God exists, but my reasons are unacceptable to some. That too is okay.

Can I prove that God exists? To many, I cannot. I have previously written here about how I know. The short version of the reasons are:

1. I look around and see the complexity of the universe and everything in it and it is clear to me that there is a designer. This reason is unacceptable to some. The details of the complexities are so great that randomness could never explain the details. Nor could nature explain it.
2. God has walked with me much of my life even when I was an Agnostic. Too many blessings have come to me that only God can provide. Some would say that personal experiences are not proof that God exists. They are correct. I know the do because they happened to me.
3. The Holy Spirit has talked to me on multiple times. He tells me when I should help others in very specific and personal ways.

Now, I have had two threads that have been closed because the discussion had become too personal. Well, this one may become too personal for some and may be cancelled by the Mods, but not because of me. I will not argue my beliefs. People can accept them or reject them.
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I figured out that this universe simply worked too well for it to be an accident when I was about 15 years old - 15 years before I became a Christian. Just the fact of life existing is something so far beyond anything that could possibly happen randomly that to deny some kind of intelligence behind it all borders on the edge of a complete denial of reality.
 
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Apostle of Marx said:
So does that mean you do or do not know about liberation theology and the catholic Marxists?
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I know enough that I don't care for it, but you may provide me with your understanding of it.
 
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LesGovt said:
I know enough that I don't care for it, but you may provide me with your understanding of it.
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A return to the early gospel with a more decentralised church, far greater emphasis on Christ as a liberator the poor and oppressed. A marriage between the teachings of Christ and the abolition of capitalism.
 
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Apostle of Marx said:
A return to the early gospel with a more decentralised church, far greater emphasis on Christ as a liberator the poor and oppressed. A marriage between the teachings of Christ and the abolition of capitalism.
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I knew I did not like it.
 
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faithful_servant said:
I figured out that this universe simply worked too well for it to be an accident when I was about 15 years old - 15 years before I became a Christian. Just the fact of life existing is something so far beyond anything that could possibly happen randomly that to deny some kind of intelligence behind it all borders on the edge of a complete denial of reality.
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That is a logical train of thought, but I'm not sure how that would point anyone to any specific religion except maybe Deism. Can you explain?
 
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<alt>doxygen said:
That is a logical train of thought, but I'm not sure how that would point anyone to any specific religion except maybe Deism. Can you explain?
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It din't point to any one specific religion, just the one that actually made sense to me. Christianity was the only faith that actually gave me hope. All the rest are performance based constructs. Christianity is the only one that put the burden for my salvation on someone other than me. It's the only one that showed God's love in action, instead of rules. If my salvation is based on my performance, then I am lost. Since my salvation is based on God's love and my simple acceptance of that love, then I have hope.
 
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LesGovt said:
I knew I did not like it.
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It sounds more like you chose not to like it before you had the foggiest idea what it entailed.

For that matter, how familiar are you with Judaism or Islam, religions you seem to have written off for no discernible reason?
 
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LesGovt said:
I knew I did not like it.
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Then you hate Christ.

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God. (Matthew 19:24)
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No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. (Matthew 6:24)
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For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. (1 Timothy 6:10 )
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Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker (Proverbs 14:31)
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Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” (Matthew 19:21 )
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Rich people who see a brother or sister in need, yet close their hearts against them, cannot claim that they love God. (1 John 3:17)
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None of you should be looking out for your own interests, but for the interests of others. (1 Corinthians 10:24)
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Apostle of Marx said:
Then you hate Christ.
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Far from it. I agree with every verse that you have quoted. On the third from the bottom, I am not perfect as I own some possessions. My guess is you own some too. We give generously to the poor since we do not believe in welfare. Even communists have possessions. Here are some photos of reported Russian homes. https://www.google.com/search?q=typical+russian+home&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=BqmkHN_Udv4KnM%253A%252Ce5ETQrkcJyv35M%252C_&usg=__rGK6ageihp-xJjuM6Q9hQqQ7MYA%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjyic6nsLrYAhVC1IMKHVkYCtIQ9QEILzAD#imgrc=BqmkHN_Udv4KnM: They must be hypocrites to you, heh?
 
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Absentglare said:
It sounds more like you chose not to like it before you had the foggiest idea what it entailed.

For that matter, how familiar are you with Judaism or Islam, religions you seem to have written off for no discernible reason?
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No, I had a good idea of what liberation theology was and I certainly know what communism is. As for Judaism and Islam, it matters not what I believe. What matters is what the Bible says. I have said this many times now, but I will repeat it here yet again, I will not discuss other religions. I will discuss what the Bible says. You can accept it or deny it. I am not into the philosophy of moral relativism. I stand for something as I do not want to fall for just anything. That is counter to today's society and I know that. The good news is that the slings and arrows of my adversaries can do no harm to me. When you have God on your side, who can be against you? May you find peace in your life.
 
Re: My Christian Beliefs

LesGovt said:
Far from it. I agree with every verse that you have quoted. On the third from the bottom, I am not perfect as I own some possessions. My guess is you own some too.
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Yeah, but I'm not a Christian.

If you agree with all those things, how can you defend capitalism?
 
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