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Miraculously Cured of Hepatitis C

Sometimes, you just have to have a little faith in your fellow man.

Reason and logic are what rules the world. You made a claim, but it is 100% anecdotal with zero evidence behind it, to not question it would be the height of ignorance.
 
With my God, all things are possible. But, not for your amusement.

With science, all things are explainable. But, keep believing in your invisible superman.
 
I initially tested positive for Hep C. And now all my tests come back negative to ever even having it. I have no Hep C antibodies in my blood. This is a very good point. It was none other than a miracle.

Or the initial test was wrong.
 
Are you trying to assert that you once had Hep C antibodies detected in your blood and now do not? You keep dancing around that critical point of your "miracle" claim.



https://hepatitisc.net/living/hepatitis-c-antibodies/

I do not know how they diagnose a person for having Hep C. But, I was diagnosed with having it. I prayed to Jesus. Was cured. And my blood shows no signs of having antibodies. And, I have had a large number of tests done.
 
I do not know how they diagnose a person for having Hep C. But, I was diagnosed with having it. I prayed to Jesus. Was cured. And my blood shows no signs of having antibodies. And, I have had a large number of tests done.

I have shown you numerous links on how Hep C is diagnosed and that if you actually ever had Hep C that it does not "disappear" and become undetectable that you once actually had Hep C. What you believe has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
Or the initial test was wrong.

More likely that a Hep C antibody lab test was never initially done (the OP asserted that he did not know how he was initially diagnosed). Why anyone would later receive lab tests to see why Hep C is not (no longer?) present, when no symptoms exist (remain?) is a great mystery as well. There are causes of jaundice other than Hep C. All the "evidence" that was presented in this thread are assertions (testimonials?) of the OP.
 
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With my God, all things are possible. But, not for your amusement.

I'd be curious as to why you are so sure your faith is the cause of your remission. As you tell it Jesus gave you Hep C so he could cure you so you could sell your blood or whatever it is you do so you could live happily ever after.

If you Google Hep C + remission, the entire first page is studies of Hep C remission, so it's not that uncommon. Aside from the 80% who never realize they have it, somewhere around 15%. cure themselves.

I'd bet that somewhere in the 15% there are a couple who don't attribute the cure to Jesus.
 
I understand that what you say is true. Only, I do not have Hep C antibodies in my blood, yet I am fully cured. I believe that what happen to me was from the Son of God...a real miracle...from Jesus.

If you don't have antibodies then you were never infected.
 
Is the falsifiability rule falsifiable?
Is the proposition "Only falsifiable propositions have scientific value" itself falsifiable?
If you really want to get into the weeds:

Per Descartes, you really can't be 100% certain of anything except the raw fact of your own existence. And even that only works if the Law of Non-Contradiction (or a near-identical analogue) is absolutely true.

That includes any private mystical experiences, which could easily be a delusion, or generated by an Evil Cartesian Demon that seeks to deceive you about the world.

Further, per Hume: We can be 100% certain of deductions, as they are the result of logical operations. We can't be 100% certain of inductions, since it may turn out that at any moment, there can be exceptions to past observations. However, it is still rational to be confident in inductions, as more evidence is accumulated.

I think we can say that everyone has a degree of faith that the world is what they think it is, including die-hard empiricists and philosophical realists (however much they may protest this.) However, there is no way to exclusively attack empiricism or realism on this basis. If we can't have faith that the real world is real, then why should we believe some alternative claim? Radical rejections of realism are self-defeating.

In terms of falsifiability: The definition of falsifiability, and operations to determine if a type of knowledge, isn't an empirical claim; it's a logical deduction. We define falsifiability, and apply that criteria to different types of claims. We can certainly debate the merits and limits of distinguishing falsifiable and unfalsifiable claims, and we can use both deductions and inductions to ask whether X is falsifiable or unfalsifiable. But there isn't a need to generate an infinite regress of the very nature of falsifiability.


How does falsifiability apply to this context? At a minimum, something that is falsifiable -- even if not with 100% certainty -- can be said to justify a high degree of confidence. If you believe that the real world exists, that evidence can be discoverable, that attempts to cover tracks are discoverable, then you can reasonably determine the veracity of "Visbek gave ionu Hep C." Claims that Hep C is not always chronic, or that the viral load can drop to 0 on its own, are empirically testable and/or observable. We may also note that at least so far, there is no evidence that spontaneous recovery from illnesses correlates in any way to the beliefs or devoutness of the patient.

In contrast, it's hard to see what standards, if any, can be applied to unfalsifiable claims. One good way to illustrate this is by positing the existence of a demiurge. In this hypothetical, there is some type of creator deity (or not...) that generated the universe, then goes off to play chess for eons, and doesn't care about any sentient creatures in the universe. The demiurge is less powerful than the creator deity, but powerful enough to create the Earth, all its inhabitants, and can manipulate everything on the planet, and treats it like an experiment or a toy -- i.e. it is not benevolent, and doesn't care about humans any more than a scientist cares about paramecium in the lab.

How can you prove that Jesus is real, and the demiurge is not? You can't. Any information you have about Jesus, including private mystical experiences and the production of canonical literature, could have been generated by the demiurge. You might think that belief in Jesus is more reasonable, but that can also be under the influence of the demiurge when making that claim, either indirectly after years of living in a demiurge-controlled world, or directly by the demiurge making you think that "Jesus is real." The nature of the demiurge blocks you from access to information which could prove or disprove its existence and/or interference.

Thus, we have at least one problem with declaring that "God did not make me sick, but Jesus healed me." There is no real way to make that claim, because you have no way to know. You don't have sufficient information to make reliable conclusions about the motivations of supernatural beings, because once you license the possibility that these unfalsifiable claims are valid, you cannot contain the consequences of accepting that type of claim. You cannot rule out that the demiurge made ionu sick, and healed him (or didn't) just as capriciously.

So ionu can believe whatever he wants, but... I don't see how or why anyone else should accept it as evidence of anything other than ionu's personal belief system.
 
I think I read somewhere that antibodies can fade away over time, but I could be wrong

They're always there, they just fall below the detectable threshold. They would definitely be detectable for at least 10 years.
 
I think I read somewhere that antibodies can fade away over time, but I could be wrong

They get weaker and less prevalent. That does not mean they totally go away.
 
I have shown you numerous links on how Hep C is diagnosed and that if you actually ever had Hep C that it does not "disappear" and become undetectable that you once actually had Hep C. What you believe has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Unless, it was a genuine miracle.
 
More likely that a Hep C antibody lab test was never initially done (the OP asserted that he did not know how he was initially diagnosed). Why anyone would later receive lab tests to see why Hep C is not (no longer?) present, when no symptoms exist (remain?) is a great mystery as well. There are causes of jaundice other than Hep C. All the "evidence" that was presented in this thread are assertions (testimonials?) of the OP.

Initially, the blood work came back to me as having Hep C. The doctor did not mention anti-bodies. I have had several blood tests done afterwords on account of my part time work. It requires clean blood. And if there was any Hep C anti-bodies detected, I would be informed and lose my job. I also once went into a clinic to be tested for Hep B, because my wife has the anti-bodies. They tested me for Hep A,B, and C. The tests came back negative for having any anti-bodies for all three, Hep A, B, and C. And this thread is none other than a testimony of a miracle from the Son of God...believe it or not.
 
They're always there, they just fall below the detectable threshold. They would definitely be detectable for at least 10 years.

I was completely cured within the first year of contracting the virus with no anti-bodies detectable.
 
I was completely cured within the first year of contracting the virus with no anti-bodies detectable.

Which we only have your word for.

It's impossible to have the virus in your body but not produce antibodies. In the first year you'd definitely be detectable.

Anyway, I don't want to talk in circles. I don't believe your story and even if I did, why do you need to prove the miracles of Jesus? We already know Jesus is miraculous.
 
Which we only have your word for.

It's impossible to have the virus in your body but not produce antibodies. In the first year you'd definitely be detectable.

Anyway, I don't want to talk in circles. I don't believe your story and even if I did, why do you need to prove the miracles of Jesus? We already know Jesus is miraculous.

Revelations 12:11. “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony.”
 
Unless, it was a genuine miracle.

Hey, maybe Satan healed you, just as much of a possibility as your god healing you.
 
How come god has never healed any amputees? There are many that are just as faithful...yet he never gets around to growing any new arms or legs.

Why is that?
 
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