A Question about Christ [W 77, 186]

[LesGovt]

An interesting question:

Why did Jesus come into the world?

 

[countryboy]

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An interesting question:

Why did Jesus come into the world?

Have you checked the Bible?

 

[Grand Mal]

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An interesting question:

Why did Jesus come into the world?

For the same reason I can't ever be a Christian- because of what happened in the Garden of Eden.

 

[ecofarm]

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An interesting question:

Why did Jesus come into the world?

Lucifer revolted. To prove Lucifer wrong, God created beings that would recognize His sovereignty without His direct presence. If by faith alone God is proven right, then there can be no question about the judgement of Lucifer.

God created man because of the heavenly conflict (above), that lead to the Hail Mary, so to speak, of sending His Son.

 

[KevinKohler]

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Because abortion was frowned upon.

 

[Grand Mal]

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Because abortion was frowned upon.

Not by the Romans. They made it retroactive.

 

[joG]

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Have you checked the Bible?

You could look there, if you can’t find it in Wikipedia.

 

[LesGovt]

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You could look there, if you can’t find it in Wikipedia.

This is a serious question and I would not check Wikipedia for the answer. I have yet to see the answer here, but it is still early.

 

[Daisy]

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An interesting question:

Why did Jesus come into the world?

The Bible speaks of Jesus being “the last Adam”...1 Corinthians 15:45 and becoming “a corresponding ransom for all mankind,” his fleshly body had to be a real human body, no incarnation....1Timothy 2:5, 6; Matthew 20:28...it had to be perfect, for it was to be sacrificed to present to Jehovah God the purchase price....1 Peter 1:18, 19; Hebrews 9:14...no imperfect human could provide the needed price....Psalm 49:7-9...for this reason Jesus said to his Father when presenting himself for baptism, to begin his sacrificial course...“Look! I have come to do your will...You prepared a body for me.” Hebrews 10:5,9

 

[LesGovt]

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The Bible speaks of Jesus being “the last Adam”...1 Corinthians 15:45 and becoming “a corresponding ransom for all mankind,” his fleshly body had to be a real human body, no incarnation....1Timothy 2:5, 6; Matthew 20:28...it had to be perfect, for it was to be sacrificed to present to Jehovah God the purchase price....1 Peter 1:18, 19; Hebrews 9:14...no imperfect human could provide the needed price....Psalm 49:7-9...for this reason Jesus said to his Father when presenting himself for baptism, to begin his sacrificial course...“Look! I have come to do your will...You prepared a body for me.” Hebrews 10:5,9

That's a possible answer; however, there is another answer. Jesus told us in the Gospels why he came.

 

[PTF]

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For our salvation...
Though there are some low info A.M.E. people shouting his name .

 

[Logicman]

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For the same reason I can't ever be a Christian- because of what happened in the Garden of Eden.

Question for you: How does God create man with free will but not allow man to make bad choices that have consequences?

 

[Daisy]

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That's a possible answer; however, there is another answer. Jesus told us in the Gospels why he came.

“For this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” John 18:36-38

 

[Grand Mal]

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Question for you: How does God create man with free will but not allow man to make bad choices that have consequences?

That's not the case, is it. You (you're a Christian, right?) you want your God to hold everyone guilty of the sin committed by one man and one woman, the ones He created. Everyone born since is guilty of that sin.
Your God fashioned a faulty creation, and blames everyone who has ever lived for it's faults. That concept of 'original sin' is why I couldn't be a Christian. I don't accept that we're born needing redemption for what happened in the Garden.

 

[Logicman]

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That's not the case, is it. You (you're a Christian, right?) you want your God to hold everyone guilty of the sin committed by one man and one woman, the ones He created. Everyone born since is guilty of that sin.
Your God fashioned a faulty creation, and blames everyone who has ever lived for it's faults. That concept of 'original sin' is why I couldn't be a Christian. I don't accept that we're born needing redemption for what happened in the Garden.

First, you didn't answer my question. How does God create man with free will but not allow man to make bad choices that have consequences?

Second, he created a way through Christ so men can be saved. And it doesn't cost you anything. Where's God's credit for doing that??

 

[Grand Mal]

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First, you didn't answer my question. How does God create man with free will but not allow man to make bad choices that have consequences?

Second, he created a way through Christ so men can be saved. And it doesn't cost you anything. Where's God's credit for doing that??

My answer was, He didn't. See there where I said, "That's not the case."? He created one man with free will and saddled all others with the consequences of that man's free will.
Here's a question for you- If someone accepts Christ's teaching as the route to Heaven and tries sincerely to live a Christian life but doesn't believe they were born in sin because of Adam and Eve, can they still enter Heaven? Seeing as how they would be denying Christ's role of Redeemer. Is accepting guilt for the sin of Adam and Eve necessary for acceptance to Heaven?

 

[Daisy]

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My answer was, He didn't. See there where I said, "That's not the case."? He created one man with free will and saddled all others with the consequences of that man's free will.
Here's a question for you- If someone accepts Christ's teaching as the route to Heaven and tries sincerely to live a Christian life but doesn't believe they were born in sin because of Adam and Eve, can they still enter Heaven? Seeing as how they would be denying Christ's role of Redeemer. Is accepting guilt for the sin of Adam and Eve necessary for acceptance to Heaven?

How about redemption for your own sins...unless, of course, you are perfect and do no wrong...

 

[Logicman]

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My answer was, He didn't. See there where I said, "That's not the case."? He created one man with free will and saddled all others with the consequences of that man's free will.

I'm not 'saddled' with the consequences. I have Christ and his salvation. You're the one who is saddled with consequences because you have KICKED GOD'S SOLUTION AND SALVATION UNDER THE BUS.

Here's a question for you- If someone accepts Christ's teaching as the route to Heaven and tries sincerely to live a Christian life but doesn't believe they were born in sin because of Adam and Eve, can they still enter Heaven? Seeing as how they would be denying Christ's role of Redeemer. Is accepting guilt for the sin of Adam and Eve necessary for acceptance to Heaven?

Each man has his own guilt. ALL have sinned and fallen short of God's laws. But people don't have to fry in eternity for that. It would be dumb to deny one's FREE 'get out of jail card'.

 

[Grand Mal]

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How about redemption for your own sins...unless, of course, you are perfect and do no wrong...

Not what we're talking about. The 'redeemer' part of Christ the Redeemer refers to the original sin. I don't buy the original sin guilt thing. Do you?

 

[Grand Mal]

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I'm not 'saddled' with the consequences. I have Christ and his salvation. You're the one who is saddled with consequences because you have KICKED GOD'S SOLUTION AND SALVATION UNDER THE BUS.



Each man has his own guilt. ALL have sinned and fallen short of God's laws. But people don't have to fry in eternity for that. It would be dumb to deny one's FREE 'get out of jail card'.

We're not talking about each person's individual sin and guilt, we're talking about everyone's guilt for the sin of Adam and Eve. Do you have to accept that guilt before you can be accepted into Heaven?

 

[Daisy]

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Not what we're talking about. The 'redeemer' part of Christ the Redeemer refers to the original sin. I don't buy the original sin guilt thing. Do you?

Redemption is also for our own sins because we inherited sin and death from Adam and Eve...we are born in sin...yes, original sin is real and is passed on to us much like other genetics are...

 

[LesGovt]

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“For this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” John 18:36-38

While the conversation has gone far off course, you nailed the answer. "...to bear witness or testify to the truth."

Very good!

 

[HonestJoe]

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An interesting question:

Why did Jesus come into the world?

Well, when a mummy virgin and a daddy deity love each other very much...

 

[Daisy]

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While the conversation has gone far off course, you nailed the answer. "...to bear witness or testify to the truth."

Very good!

Wel,l thanks...what do I win for getting the answer right?:tongue4:

 

[LesGovt]

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Wel,l thanks...what do I win for getting the answer right?:tongue4:

First, you receive my praise for the correct answer, not that my praise is worthy of anything, but God would probably thank you too. From here, you may respond to scripture that is forthcoming or you may answer questions, if asked.