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    Re: A Question about Christ [W 77, 186]

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    I do not see it as having a 'two fold fulfillment'.
    Of course you don't...but this topic is about Christ and Christianity...
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    Re: A Question about Christ [W 77, 186]

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    There are out of context quotes there, and mistranslations. Isaiah 7:14 is not talking about Jesus. It is talking about Isaiah's son. Isaiah 9:6 is discussing King Hezekiah
    Not a chance.

    "Hezekiah was 39 years old during the Assyrian invasion. Could the phrase "for unto us a child is born" apply to a 39 year old man who was the king of Judah for 14 years? It is insulting to apply this verse to a 39-year-old king! The age factor alone eliminates Hezekiah as the subject of Isaiah 9:6,7."

    Isaiah 9:6,7 Cannot Be About Hezekiah
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    Re: A Question about Christ [W 77, 186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Not so. The following article on that scripture does not agree with your view: https://carm.org/john-173-only-true-god

    What's more, the weight of scripture clearly demonstrates that Jesus is divine:

    "Scholarly author Kevin J. Conner lists 27 initial scriptural evidences demonstrating the deity of Christ:

    1. Jesus existed in the beginning (John 1:1; Philip 2:6; Rev. 19:13; Micah 5:2).
    2. He was with God (John 1:1).
    3. He is God, the Son (John 1:1; Rom. 9:5; Heb. 1:8, 10; I John 5:20).
    4. He is God manifest in the flesh (John 20:28; I Tim. 3:16; Col. 2:9; Acts 20:28; Heb. 1:8).
    5. He is God foretold (Isaiah 9:6; Psalm 45:6).
    6. He is Immanuel, God with us (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23).
    7. He is the true God (I John 5:20 with Titus 2:13; Romans 9:5).
    8. He is the great God (Titus 2:13).
    9. He is God our Savior (II Peter 1:1).
    10. He existed in the form of God before His incarnation and was equal with God the Father (Philippians 2:5-7)"

    (17 more examples in the following link: "The Deity of Jesus Christ in Scripture" https://righterreport.com/2013/03/21...-in-scripture/

    Next, Jesus Must be Jehovah: https://righterreport.com/2011/09/29...e-jehovah-god/

    "Jehovah is the “mighty God” (Jeremiah 32:17-18; Isaiah 10:20-21). Jesus is the “mighty God”
    (Isaiah 9:6) who is “Almighty” (Revelation 1:7-8).

    Jehovah is “the first and the last” (Isaiah 44:6; 48:12). Jesus is the “first and the last” (Revelation 1:17-18; 22:12-13, 20). Jesus must be Jehovah.

    Jehovah is the “Alpha and the Omega” (Revelation 1:8; Revelation 21:6-7). Jesus is the “Alpha and the Omega” (Revelation 22:12-13, 20). Jesus must be Jehovah.

    Jehovah’s title is “the Holy One” (Isaiah 47:4). Jesus is “the Holy One” (Acts 3:14; John 6:69). Jesus must be Jehovah, the Holy One.

    Jehovah is the “stumbling stone” of Israel (Isaiah 8:13-15). Jesus is the “stumbling stone” of Israel (1 Peter 2:6-8). Jesus must be Jehovah.

    Jehovah is the great Judge who gives life to whom he wishes and who renders to each man “according” to his “deeds” (Psalm 98:9; Deuteronomy 32:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10). Jesus is the only judge who gives life to whom he wishes and renders to each man “according” to his “deeds” (John 5:21-22; Revelation 2:18, 23). Jesus must be Jehovah.

    Jehovah is the great “shepherd” who leads his people to “the spring of the water of life” (Psalm 23:1-2; Revelation 21:6-7). Jesus as the “shepherd” of His people, leads them “to springs of the water of life” (John 10:11-18; Revelation 7:17). THERE IS ONLY ONE SHEPHERD –John 10:16.

    Jehovah is “Lord of Lords” (Deuteronomy 10:17). Jesus is “Lord of Lords.” (Revelation 17:14; 19:16). The Father is Lord of all (Matthew 11:25; Acts 17:24). Jesus is “Lord of all.” (Acts 10:36). THERE IS ONLY ONE LORD (Jude 4) ."
    NONE of your above trumps the words coming from the mouth of Jesus declaring His Father who sent Jesus to be the ONE true God

    Trinitarians created a false phony "church" that has persecuted and despised real Christians since the Roman Empire empowered the Trinitarian cult back in 380 AD.

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    Re: A Question about Christ [W 77, 186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Not a chance.

    "Hezekiah was 39 years old during the Assyrian invasion. Could the phrase "for unto us a child is born" apply to a 39 year old man who was the king of Judah for 14 years? It is insulting to apply this verse to a 39-year-old king! The age factor alone eliminates Hezekiah as the subject of Isaiah 9:6,7."

    Isaiah 9:6,7 Cannot Be About Hezekiah
    And, what is that supposed to prove what so ever?? It makes an excuse that is totally meaningless in the context of the passage, and it is incorrect. The titles in Isaiah 9:6 are the royal titles of Hezekiah. Bringing up nonsense that has nothing to do with the passage is not relevant. Isaiah 9:6 has nothing to do with 'A child is Born'. The subject of that prophecy ending in 8:18, and it's a new subject.


    Trying to explain things by misreading the passage is not honest.
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