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There was one time when people were told the only life that existed was on what aliens call Planet Earth.

We know now that life is persistent and have found forms of life where one thought could never exist., e.g., volcanic vents.

What people should really be asking if there is INTELLIGENT life on other planets.
 
Glowpun said:
There was one time when people were told the only life that existed was on what aliens call Planet Earth.

We know now that life is persistent and have found forms of life where one thought could never exist., e.g., volcanic vents.

What people should really be asking if there is INTELLIGENT life on other planets.
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It could very well be that the question that should be asked is 'is there intelligence life on earth'.
 
Glowpun said:
There was one time when people were told the only life that existed was on what aliens call Planet Earth.

We know now that life is persistent and have found forms of life where one thought could never exist., e.g., volcanic vents.

What people should really be asking if there is INTELLIGENT life on other planets.
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Ok. The answer is we don't yet know. See Fermi Paradox.

My question is why ask this in Religion?


(Personally, though I am religious, I have this issue mentally filed under "Science")
 
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Glowpun said:
There was one time when people were told the only life that existed was on what aliens call Planet Earth.

We know now that life is persistent and have found forms of life where one thought could never exist., e.g., volcanic vents.

What people should really be asking if there is INTELLIGENT life on other planets.
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Well that is one of the prime goals of NASA is to find life elsewhere in the soar system. If we do find life will it be genetically related to life that we have found on earth or will it be a completely different form of life that evolved separately from life on earth. So far all life on earth seem to have sprung from the same initial start. It changed through random adaption to live everywhere on this planet.

If we find life somewhere else will it have evolved separately from us or would be the same life as on earth carried to other places and merely adapting to the new environment.

Another theory is if we find life elsewhere and it is genetically a relative maybe life did not start here but was carried here from all across the universe.
 
RAMOSS said:
It could very well be that the question that should be asked is 'is there intelligence life on earth'.
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Have you ever noticed that the huge array of antennas seeking intelligent life are all pointed away from earth.
 
Glowpun said:
There was one time when people were told the only life that existed was on what aliens call Planet Earth.

We know now that life is persistent and have found forms of life where one thought could never exist., e.g., volcanic vents.

What people should really be asking if there is INTELLIGENT life on other planets.
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why do the aliens call it earth? and what aliens?
 
Glowpun said:
What people should really be asking if there is INTELLIGENT life on other planets.
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#1) Do you seriously wish to suggest people have not asked this before, and actually quite often?
#2) Why is this in the religious discussion section?
 
Glowpun said:
There was one time when people were told the only life that existed was on what aliens call Planet Earth.

We know now that life is persistent and have found forms of life where one thought could never exist., e.g., volcanic vents.

What people should really be asking if there is INTELLIGENT life on other planets.
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I think the more pertinent question is 'is this knowledge necessary to sustain life on earth?' If there is intelligent life on other planets, perhaps God will let us know in due time...
 
Elvira said:
I think the more pertinent question is 'is this knowledge necessary to sustain life on earth?' If there is intelligent life on other planets, perhaps God will let us know in due time...
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On the other hand if God was content with telling us in his own good time he would not have made us so curious.
 
RAMOSS said:
It could very well be that the question that should be asked is 'is there intelligence life on earth'.
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What will intelligence be measured by - the intelligence of man?
 
straykatz said:
What will intelligence be measured by - the intelligence of man?
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If you look at the political climate, there is no intelligent life on earth.
 
Recommended reading, as it addresses the issue from many different perspectives and angles:

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RAMOSS said:
If you look at the political climate, there is no intelligent life on earth.
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But if one goes past the superfluous BS you presented, you find a lot of folks that do believe in an intelligence far beyond what most can even scratch the surface to begin to understand or comprehend in His wisdom.
 
vesper said:
But if one goes past the superfluous BS you presented, you find a lot of folks that do believe in an intelligence far beyond what most can even scratch the surface to begin to understand or comprehend in His wisdom.
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There is the belief, and then there is showing that belief to be true. Those are two different things.
 
RAMOSS said:
There is the belief, and then there is showing that belief to be true. Those are two different things.
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And there are those who go through life with their eyes half closed while others have them wide open.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Let's remember where we are please: This is the Religion forum.
 
If you've ever been with a person or an animal at the time of death, then you know that this mysterious thing we call "life" is not to be identified with the body. Life is embodied, to be sure, but it is not the body. Life is a principle. Dust off the old term "vital principle," or elan vital -- you'll find it somewhere in the attic of our collective consciousness. Life is not the material enlivened; it is the enlivening. It is spirit.

This is why science will never understand the origin of Life on earth.

This is why science will never find Life on another planet.

And this, in case you're wondering, is why this thread belongs in the Religion forum.
 
Gaius46 said:
On the other hand if God was content with telling us in his own good time he would not have made us so curious.
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The trait of curiosity is a 2 edged sword, as Eve demonstrated...one can use it for good or one can use it for bad...God warns about overstepping our bounds...I'll wait on Him...
 
Elvira said:
The trait of curiosity is a 2 edged sword, as Eve demonstrated...one can use it for good or one can use it for bad...God warns about overstepping our bounds...I'll wait on Him...
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you are right right the biblical god is clearly ok with making people that want to do stuff that either the god or people wont like in the story it engineers existence just so their can be truly horrible things
that god may or may not be real and it dosnet seem like a good person if its all powerful but setting traps is biblical
 
blarg said:
you are right right the biblical god is clearly ok with making people that want to do stuff that either the god or people wont like in the story it engineers existence just so their can be truly horrible things
that god may or may not be real and it dosnet seem like a good person if its all powerful but setting traps is biblical
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I have no idea what you just said...:confused:
 
Angel said:
If you've ever been with a person or an animal at the time of death, then you know that this mysterious thing we call "life" is not to be identified with the body. Life is embodied, to be sure, but it is not the body. Life is a principle. Dust off the old term "vital principle," or elan vital -- you'll find it somewhere in the attic of our collective consciousness. Life is not the material enlivened; it is the enlivening. It is spirit.

This is why science will never understand the origin of Life on earth.

This is why science will never find Life on another planet.

And this, in case you're wondering, is why this thread belongs in the Religion forum.
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Finally, a reply relevant to both the topic and religion. :)


To answer:


This is why science will never find Life on another planet.
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You're quite sure of that? I'm not.

I believe in God as the Creator of all that is. What I am less certain of is whether we are His only creation. It is hard to believe all the other stars, planets and so on are just there for window dressing, or to give us something to see at night.

Within a few years we may be able to detect evidence of life (of some sort) on exoplanets. If so, will you revise your view at that time? Or just assume it isn't so despite growing evidence to the contrary?
 
Goshin said:
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You're quite sure of that? I'm not.

I believe in God as the Creator of all that is. What I am less certain of is whether we are His only creation. It is hard to believe all the other stars, planets and so on are just there for window dressing, or to give us something to see at night.

Within a few years we may be able to detect evidence of life (of some sort) on exoplanets. If so, will you revise your view at that time? Or just assume it isn't so despite growing evidence to the contrary?
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It depends on what we're calling "evidence," but my view is a view of a Universal Mystery and, as such, open to complete revision if warranted.
 
Elvira said:
I have no idea what you just said...:confused:
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sorry ill take another stab at it

you are right right the biblical god is clearly ok with making people that want to do stuff that either the god or people wont like.

in the story ( the bible ) it engineers existence in just such a way that their can be truly horrible results for people acting on the desires they weer created with .

the biblical god may or may not be real and it doesn't seem like a good person if it is all powerful but god setting traps is biblical.
 
Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
I think the more pertinent question is 'is this knowledge necessary to sustain life on earth?' If there is intelligent life on other planets, perhaps God will let us know in due time...
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Gaius46 said:
On the other hand if God was content with telling us in his own good time he would not have made us so curious.
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Maybe, it's both.

Us being curious.....is part of God's plan in telling us in His own good time.
If there is no curiosity - would there be science?

Science is but His tool that peels the skin off the onion. I believe science was created for that reason.
It will confirm what is written, and glorify God.
 
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