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Question to Christian literalists: Is incest wrong?

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My question is to all Christians who accept the Genesis account:

Do you think incest is moral?
 
AntiTheist said:
My question is to all Christians who accept the Genesis account:

Do you think incest is moral?
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If you don't believe that Jesus is the living Son of God why do you care what Christians think?
 
Mac77 said:
If you don't believe that Jesus is the living Son of God why do you care what Christians think?
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I care about the world at large. I am not a physicist either and yet I'm interested in Quantum mechanics.

What I also find interesting is that you did not take the opportunity to answer the Yes or No question.
 
AntiTheist said:
I care about the world at large. I am not a physicist either and yet I'm interested in Quantum mechanics.

What I also find interesting is that you did not take the opportunity to answer the Yes or No question.
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Did a Christian piss on your Cheerios this morning?

If so thats too bad.
 
Mac77 said:
Did a Christian piss on your Cheerios this morning?

If so thats too bad.
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Not a Cheerios fan, I'm afraid.

And yet another fellow forum member - whom I presume is a Christian - declining to answer a Yes or No question regarding their faith.

It certainly is your prerogative, just as it is revealing.
 
AntiTheist said:
Not a Cheerios fan, I'm afraid.

And yet another fellow forum member - whom I presume is a Christian - declining to answer a Yes or No question regarding their faith.

It certainly is your prerogative, just as it is revealing.
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If you like incest be aware that it is against the law in most places.

Proceed with caution
 
Mac77 said:
If you like incest be aware that it is against the law in most places.

Proceed with caution
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I think you have me confused with those affiliated with a God who allegedly mandated incest in the first place, you know, those who won't shut up about being the guardins of objective morality.

Your insistence on not answering the question is noted, though.
 
AntiTheist said:
I think you have me confused with those affiliated with a God who allegedly mandated incest in the first place, you know, those who won't shut up about being the guardins of objective morality.

Your insistence on not answering the question is noted, though.
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I am still not clear about why you care what Christians think about the subject.

Is incest the next great liberal cause that they want to legalize and you are worred about political opposition from Christans?

If so you will get plenty of it.

But hang in there

All you need is one unelected libearal judge to say its ok and then Christians will not be able to stop it
 
Mac77 said:
I am still not clear about why you care what Christians think about the subject.

Is incest the nest great liberal cause that they want to legalize and you are worred about political opposition from Christans?

If so you will get plenty of it.

But hang in there

All you need is one unelected libearal judge to say its ok and then Christians will not be able to stop it
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The question is really bothering you.
Your evasion is entertaining.

It is also entertaining to note the number of assumptions with which you try to cover your reluctance to answer a straightforward Yes or No question. Do the people who accept Genesis think that incest is moral or not?

The supposedly morally perfect biblical God allegedly put in place a system whereby incest among Adam descendants was vital. So God apparently thinks incest is not only moral but imperative. Note that God might have seeded mankind via a number of human couples, thus eliminating the need for incest. Yet He didn't.

I can see why you won't answer the question. In fact, you'll do anything but answer it, which, in and of itself, is an answer on its own.

I take it you enjoy tap dancing.
 
AntiTheist said:
The question is really bothering you.
Your evasion is entertaining.

It is also entertaining to note the number of assumptions with which you try to cover your reluctance to answer a straightforward Yes or No question. Do the people who accept Genesis think that incest is moral or not?

The supposedly morally perfect biblical God allegedly put in place a system whereby incest among Adam descendants was vital. So God apparently thinks incest is not only moral but imperative. Note that God might have seeded mankind via a number of human couples, thus eliminating the need for incest. Yet He didn't.

I can see why you won't answer the question. In fact, you'll do anything but answer it, which, in and of itself, is an answer on its own.

I take it you enjoy tap dancing.
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I take it you have a bug up your ass about Christians and enjoy baiting them into debates about nothing of importance.

That is often a cry for attention by lost souls but its not a call I feel like responding to.

You're on your own buddy
 
AntiTheist said:
The question is really bothering you.
Your evasion is entertaining.

It is also entertaining to note the number of assumptions with which you try to cover your reluctance to answer a straightforward Yes or No question. Do the people who accept Genesis think that incest is moral or not?

The supposedly morally perfect biblical God allegedly put in place a system whereby incest among Adam descendants was vital. So God apparently thinks incest is not only moral but imperative. Note that God might have seeded mankind via a number of human couples, thus eliminating the need for incest. Yet He didn't.

I can see why you won't answer the question. In fact, you'll do anything but answer it, which, in and of itself, is an answer on its own.

I take it you enjoy tap dancing.
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You don't get it. There is no point in discussing theism with a person whose screen name is AnitTheist. What you are doing is essentially trolling so don't be surprised if no one feeds you.
 
Fletch said:
You don't get it. There is no point in discussing theism with a person whose screen name is AnitTheist. What you are doing is essentially trolling so don't be surprised if no one feeds you.
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Anti-theism is opposition to [specific] theistic claims, in the sense it doesn't occupy itself with whether such claims are true or not, but whether such claims are defensible or not.

As such, the view that anti-theism is per se "trolling" is simply absurd.

Conversely, imagine my screenname was "Christian" and that an atheist refused to engage in a discussion on the very same grounds you apparently think it's reasonable not to engage with me. What would you think of him?

There's an obvious problem in your rationale.
 
Mac77 said:
I take it you have a bug up your ass about Christians and enjoy baiting them into debates about nothing of importance.
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So you think debating the morality - or lack thereof - of the OT is insubstantial?
You certainly have that right, though after six or seven posts of yours one might have been persuaded otherwise.

That is often a cry for attention by lost souls but its not a call I feel like responding to.
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Because you would be an expert on the minds of those whom you happen to disagree, right? Usually forum posters realize that attacking the poster is no substitute for a rebuttal of the actual content.
Again, six or seven posts later one might reasonably be persuaded that, somehow, you did feel compelled, but not to answer the question.

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You're on your own buddy[/QUOTE]

And I will mourn such tragic loss for days.
 
AntiTheist said:
Anti-theism is opposition to [specific] theistic claims, in the sense it doesn't occupy itself with whether such claims are true or not, but whether such claims are defensible or not.

As such, the view that anti-theism is per se "trolling" is simply absurd.

Conversely, imagine my screenname was "Christian" and that an atheist refused to engage in a discussion on the very same grounds you apparently think it's reasonable not to engage with me. What would you think of him?

There's an obvious problem in your rationale.
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There is still no point in a theist discussing this issue with you, which is why you likely wont see it happen.
 
AntiTheist said:
Conversely, imagine my screenname was "Christian" and that an atheist refused to engage in a discussion on the very same grounds you apparently think it's reasonable not to engage with me. What would you think of him?
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I would think such a person is sensible.
 
CrabCake said:
I would think such a person is sensible.
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Really?

Than perhaps they should move on to forums where only theists posts.
Regardless, that certainly is no sign of confidence in one's apologetic capabilities.
 
Fletch said:
There is still no point in a theist discussing this issue with you, which is why you likely wont see it happen.
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Why?
Why is there no point for two people who evidently disagree on a topic to debate such topic?

One might have thought cross-faith non denominational forums existed for that very purpose. You might think that this is a sensitive topic, one that attracts passions, and we might agree there, but to claim a priori that the discussion is pointless strikes me as a cop out.

And just to clarify, no, I don't think incest is moral. What I seek to underline is the contradiction of those who accept Genesis - where incest is Godly sanctioned - but proceed to call it immoral.

Something has to give.
Either their God mandated an immoral act or it is they who believe incest is moral.

Which of the two is it?
 
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AntiTheist said:
Why?
Why is there no point for two people who evidently disagree on a topic to debate such topic?

One might have thought cross-faith non denominational forums existed for that very purpose. You might think that this is a sensitive topic, one that attracts passions, and we might agree there, but to claim a priori that the discussion is pointless strikes me as a cop out.

And just to clarify, no, I don't think incest is moral. What I seek to underline is the contradiction of those who accept Genesis - where incest is Godly sanctioned - but proceed to call it immoral.

Something has to give.
Either their God mandated an immoral act or it is they who believe incest is moral.

Which of the two is it?
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Why do you feel incest is immoral?
 
AntiTheist said:
My question is to all Christians who accept the Genesis account:

Do you think incest is moral?
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No. Though I think cousin and levirate marriage is ok. I also don't believe in a literal Genesis, and neither did many of our sages. -I'm Jewish
 
AntiTheist said:
My question is to all Christians who accept the Genesis account:

Do you think incest is moral?
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You need to ask the Jews this question, Genesis is their book.
 
Christians tend to believe that incest is immoral, basically because sex in general is immoral outside of marriage. And even in the bible marriage between close family members was rare, and only done so out of necessity. That added to the fact that Christians today know that incest causes genetic problems, it's a loaded question to ask them if they believe its moral. When you know they don't. I'm all for catching Christians up in logical fallacies, but this isn't one of them.
 
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