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Is mormonism christianity?

Is mormonism christianity?

  • yes

    Votes: 24 43.6%

  • no

    Votes: 26 47.3%

  • not sure

    Votes: 5 9.1%
  • Total voters
    55
JohnPaul said:
So your God is only a Demiurge who can mold matter into new forms, but cannot create it from nothing. That is what the Gnostics believed, but they were condemned as heretics.
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that would not make them wrong and if you still have to save your soul from it that dosent change the function of the Christ
 
JohnPaul said:
So your God is only a Demiurge who can mold matter into new forms, but cannot create it from nothing. That is what the Gnostics believed, but they were condemned as heretics.
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Creating from nothing is impossible. God is real and works in reality. Can God do evil and still be righteous? If not then God is bound by law if He's a righteous God. If He can do anything and call it righteous then he'd be a tyrant. That God lives in reality where there must be opposition in all things and laws that organize all intelligence/ matter, where there is cause and effect, it doesn't limit Him as a God, it makes Him FAR greater than those who think God is not bound by law and creates from nothing, That god cannot exist and would be a far lesser god if it were possible.
 
JohnPaul said:
So your God is only a Demiurge who can mold matter into new forms, but cannot create it from nothing. That is what the Gnostics believed, but they were condemned as heretics.
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As far as from the LDS perspective, both the Gnostics and those condemning them as heretics are heretics. Not a fan of that word though.
 
laska said:
Creating from nothing is impossible. God is real and works in reality. Can God do evil and still be righteous? If not then God is bound by law if He's a righteous God. If He can do anything and call it righteous then he'd be a tyrant. That God lives in reality where there must be opposition in all things and laws that organize all intelligence/ matter, where there is cause and effect, it doesn't limit Him as a God, it makes Him FAR greater than those who think God is not bound by law and creates from nothing, That god cannot exist and would be a far lesser god if it were possible.
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i dont know that violating physical laws would be worng so long as the universe still runs ok
 
blarg said:
i dont know that violating physical laws would be worng so long as the universe still runs ok
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Ths is going beyond my knowledge. I have no problem with God writing the laws of physics and going beyond them. I do believe there is light and darkness, and God is obedient to the laws of light, is full of light.
 
laska said:
Creating from nothing is impossible. God is real and works in reality. Can God do evil and still be righteous? If not then God is bound by law if He's a righteous God. If He can do anything and call it righteous then he'd be a tyrant. That God lives in reality where there must be opposition in all things and laws that organize all intelligence/ matter, where there is cause and effect, it doesn't limit Him as a God, it makes Him FAR greater than those who think God is not bound by law and creates from nothing, That god cannot exist and would be a far lesser god if it were possible.
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NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD! God IS real and works through the SUPERNATURAL and created reality. God is not bound to the reality HE established. And Christ gives testimony to that in that while being God He became the Son of Man and Son of God.
 
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LittleNipper said:
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD! God IS real and works through the SUPERNATURAL and created reality. God is not bound to the reality HE established. And Christ gives testimony to that in that while being God He became the Son of Man and Son of God.
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you believe different things about god ther Christ can still function like yours you both seem christian
 
LittleNipper said:
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD! God IS real and works through the SUPERNATURAL and created reality. God is not bound to the reality HE established. And Christ gives testimony to that in that while being God He became the Son of Man and Son of God.
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Numbers 23:19
 
laska said:
Creating from nothing is impossible. God is real and works in reality. Can God do evil and still be righteous? If not then God is bound by law if He's a righteous God. If He can do anything and call it righteous then he'd be a tyrant. That God lives in reality where there must be opposition in all things and laws that organize all intelligence/ matter, where there is cause and effect, it doesn't limit Him as a God, it makes Him FAR greater than those who think God is not bound by law and creates from nothing, That god cannot exist and would be a far lesser god if it were possible.
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I agree, but that is not what the Christians believe. The more you say about Mormonism, the more it looks like ancient Gnosticism to me. There is certainly a strong influence. Joseph Smith must have had access to some Gnostic writings, maybe from Egypt? Wow! Maybe the gold plates were real? That puts a whole new light on it.
 
Masterhawk said:
Mormonism is a christian offshoot which teaches that God was like us at some point and that the best mormons will get their own planet. This takes the term "heavenly father" much more literally since there comes a time when we no longer are under the jurisdiction of our parents and at one point, our parents were kids under their parent's jurisdiction.

This quote sums it up perfectly:
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In your perspective, where does that put Scientology, relative to Mormonism?
 
blarg said:
you believe different things about god ther Christ can still function like yours you both seem christian
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Things are seldom what they seem --- skim milk masquerades as cream...
 
LittleNipper said:
Things are seldom what they seem --- skim milk masquerades as cream...
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thats dosent support your position that Mormons are not Christian

please try again
 
a7xfanjma said:
Mormons are brainwashed retards.
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maybe a bit brain washed like believers of any sky dady worshiping religion but ther normal people and not particulary retarded
 
phattonez said:
So then where did everything come from?
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Always existed in one form or the other. Take for example this earth, it had a creation in the organized state that it is now but the pure elements it is made up of has always existed. The star dust that your body is made of, always existed but without God there would be no mortal body. The light of our intelligence has always existed, without God we would not have been spiritually created out of this pure spiritual element. So in this sense we are are created but also eternal, having always existed.
 
laska said:
Always existed in one form or the other. Take for example this earth, it had a creation in the organized state that it is now but the pure elements it is made up of has always existed. The star dust that your body is made of, always existed but without God there would be no mortal body. The light of our intelligence has always existed, without God we would not have been spiritually created out of this pure spiritual element. So in this sense we are are created but also eternal, having always existed.
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Are you familiar with the cosmological argument?
 
phattonez said:
Are you familiar with the cosmological argument?
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The cosmological argument is very flawed. Among other things, it makes assumptions that can not be shown to be true comes to conclusions that can not be tested
 
RAMOSS said:
The cosmological argument is very flawed. Among other things, it makes assumptions that can not be shown to be true comes to conclusions that can not be tested
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I used it to prove that my pet cat Snippy created the universe. I asked Snippy about it, but he only gave me an enigmatic smile and went back to his tuna. That was good enougn for me.
 
In Acts 15, what regulation do the Apostles set for the newly converted gentiles? Where does, being baptised for dead ancestors, church underwear, eternal marriage, and baptism only by the Mormon church, no coffee, and a whole slew of other Mormon regulations fit in? The Mormon church is an APOSTASY and Heretical. It is not furthering Christ but itself, as did Roman Catholicism. And though most Mormons no longer practice polygamy, Joseph Smith proclaimed and promoted it. How is that not sexual sin? How is that Christian by any stretch of the word?

Dear Brothers:

24 We have heard that some men have come to you from our group. What they said troubled and upset you. But we did not tell them to do this. 25 We have all agreed to choose some men and send them to you. They will be with our dear friends, Barnabas and Paul. 26 Barnabas and Paul have given their lives to serve our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 So we have sent Judas and Silas with them. They will tell you the same things. 28 We agree with the Holy Spirit that you should have no more burdens, except for these necessary things:
29 Don’t eat food that has been given to idols.
Don’t eat meat from animals that have been strangled or any meat that still has the blood in it.
Don’t be involved in sexual sin.
If you stay away from these, you will do well.

We say goodbye now.
 
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