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Is it alright to be evil sometimes?

Glowpun

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Someone I knew got conned big time by a friend. The individual in question knew my friend had a serious illness and took advantage of her.
My friend realized too late that she was conned but could do nothing about it. She passed away a month ago and this person ended up inheriting a lot of things that my friend at the end did not want him to have.

I would love to throw a curse on this fellow as I feel he is a thief big time. But we all know that curses, prayers, hexes, whatever do nothing. Right? At the funeral this person did not even bother to attend. After all, he got what he came to get from her.
 
I would suggest that, perhaps, someone who acts as you describe is already cursed.
 
What Luther said. The Bible is pretty explicit that those who do evil and profit by it have their reward. But they will never know the joy or happiness that is the reward of those who do not do evil.
 
I wouldn't call the con artist evil anymore than I would call you evil for being angry.

I would call it human nature.

Conning a sick person is pretty bad in my books, but let's not toss around the word evil too willy nilly. I'd reserve that privilege for the worst of the worst.
 
Glowpun said:
Someone I knew got conned big time by a friend. The individual in question knew my friend had a serious illness and took advantage of her.
My friend realized too late that she was conned but could do nothing about it. She passed away a month ago and this person ended up inheriting a lot of things that my friend at the end did not want him to have.

I would love to throw a curse on this fellow as I feel he is a thief big time. But we all know that curses, prayers, hexes, whatever do nothing. Right? At the funeral this person did not even bother to attend. After all, he got what he came to get from her.
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Evil is a human construct.
What one may find evil another may not, so really it is up to you.
You have your answer in your own morals, ethics and values. You also need to weigh the consequences of any contemplated action regardless of your morals ethics and values, as sometimes the consequences make the action being contemplated just not worth the trouble it could bring.

Asking another only gives you what is appropriate for them, not what is appropriate for you, so I do find it odd you are seeking such an answer on an internet forum.
Do you not have your own morals, ethics and values to guide you, or are you just looking for someone to tell you it is ok to do something that you think is wrong?
 
Glowpun said:
Someone I knew got conned big time by a friend. The individual in question knew my friend had a serious illness and took advantage of her.
My friend realized too late that she was conned but could do nothing about it. She passed away a month ago and this person ended up inheriting a lot of things that my friend at the end did not want him to have.

I would love to throw a curse on this fellow as I feel he is a thief big time. But we all know that curses, prayers, hexes, whatever do nothing. Right? At the funeral this person did not even bother to attend. After all, he got what he came to get from her.
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We're evil all the time anyway: You thought of retribution. That's evil.
 
Go out and pop one of his tires, oh, say, every other month or so. For about 2 years.
 
Northern Light said:
I wouldn't call the con artist evil anymore than I would call you evil for being angry.

I would call it human nature.

Conning a sick person is pretty bad in my books, but let's not toss around the word evil too willy nilly. I'd reserve that privilege for the worst of the worst.
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What is "evil" then if not this?
 
Glowpun said:
Someone I knew got conned big time by a friend. The individual in question knew my friend had a serious illness and took advantage of her.
My friend realized too late that she was conned but could do nothing about it. She passed away a month ago and this person ended up inheriting a lot of things that my friend at the end did not want him to have.

I would love to throw a curse on this fellow as I feel he is a thief big time. But we all know that curses, prayers, hexes, whatever do nothing. Right? At the funeral this person did not even bother to attend. After all, he got what he came to get from her.
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Perhaps an unpopular view in the common moral-religious landscape of interpersonal pacifism in our particular society, but I tend to think that sometimes, we ARE the karma other people have coming to them. I make no apologies for fighting back when someone tries to get clever, and even adding in an extra thump for the principle of the thing and to deter them from trying again.

Nature doesn't seem to care much whether things are "balanced," according to our subject human morals, and I've never seen any evidence that the wicked get what's coming to them with any kind of consistency. If you want balance, you gotta make it yourself.

I don't waste too much of my life being angry or obsessing over other people's bad deeds, but if it comes to me and mine, I am no pacifist. In the real world, all pacifism does is show the bad people that you're a good target.

That's a lesson perhaps only known to those of us who've spent substantial chunks of our lives without having a clan to protect us, and I expect that people who haven't had that experience will disagree with me. Well, walk a mile and then get back to me...
 
nota bene said:
What is "evil" then if not this?
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I know a person who was sold into human trafficking by her own father when she was 6. Is that evil enough for you?
 
RAMOSS said:
I know a person who was sold into human trafficking by her own father when she was 6. Is that evil enough for you?
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That would certainly make my list.
 
BrewerBob said:
That would certainly make my list.
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The worse thing was when I got independent confirmation of some of the harsher things she went though. It's literally the stuff of nightmares.
 
nota bene said:
What is "evil" then if not this?
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Dangerous dictators, torturers, people who take casual pleasure in the torment of others, genocidal regimes and their leaders... to name a few. I think human trafficking is another one that somebody already mentioned.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Perhaps an unpopular view in the common moral-religious landscape of interpersonal pacifism in our particular society, but I tend to think that sometimes, we ARE the karma other people have coming to them. I make no apologies for fighting back when someone tries to get clever, and even adding in an extra thump for the principle of the thing and to deter them from trying again.

Nature doesn't seem to care much whether things are "balanced," according to our subject human morals, and I've never seen any evidence that the wicked get what's coming to them with any kind of consistency. If you want balance, you gotta make it yourself.

I don't waste too much of my life being angry or obsessing over other people's bad deeds, but if it comes to me and mine, I am no pacifist. In the real world, all pacifism does is show the bad people that you're a good target.

That's a lesson perhaps only known to those of us who've spent substantial chunks of our lives without having a clan to protect us, and I expect that people who haven't had that experience will disagree with me. Well, walk a mile and then get back to me...
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Your description of karma is Judeochristian, which is not how karma works. Karma is merely action and reaction, it describes causation, but it has levels which are beyond human understanding.

I believe that we are born with a life path and a learning mission, and we draw in all the lessons we need to experience in order to accomplish our task. Whether the mission is on a soul level, is ancestral, or something more mundane like biology, it's a force that guides our lives. If we judge things superficially, we only see things in a materialistic way. Who knows what the higher exchange is? For example, in the OP, maybe the person who was conned is supposed to give up their possessions to the con artist so that the con can go on with their mission, even if on a personality level those people may view it differently? I'm just theorizing, I'm not saying that's what happened, but I do believe that there is a higher purpose to major events in our lives. I'm not say EVERYTHING that happens is for a reason... but something like being conned on your death bed is pretty profound if you think about it.
 
Northern Light said:
Your description of karma is Judeochristian, which is not how karma works. Karma is merely action and reaction, it describes causation, but it has levels which are beyond human understanding.

I believe that we are born with a life path and a learning mission, and we draw in all the lessons we need to experience in order to accomplish our task. Whether the mission is on a soul level, is ancestral, or something more mundane like biology, it's a force that guides our lives. If we judge things superficially, we only see things in a materialistic way. Who knows what the higher exchange is? For example, in the OP, maybe the person who was conned is supposed to give up their possessions to the con artist so that the con can go on with their mission, even if on a personality level those people may view it differently? I'm just theorizing, I'm not saying that's what happened, but I do believe that there is a higher purpose to major events in our lives. I'm not say EVERYTHING that happens is for a reason... but something like being conned on your death bed is pretty profound if you think about it.
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I know that actually. I'm just using the word is the way it's commonly understood, which was non-religion-specific in that context.

I frankly don't care of it has a "reason." I'm not going to sit around and let things happen to me just because there's a supposed "reason."

Like I said, this is some hollow rhetoric indeed to those of us without clans to rely on who buffer us from some of this stuff. Screw that.
 
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Glowpun said:
Someone I knew got conned big time by a friend. The individual in question knew my friend had a serious illness and took advantage of her.
My friend realized too late that she was conned but could do nothing about it. She passed away a month ago and this person ended up inheriting a lot of things that my friend at the end did not want him to have.

I would love to throw a curse on this fellow as I feel he is a thief big time. But we all know that curses, prayers, hexes, whatever do nothing. Right? At the funeral this person did not even bother to attend. After all, he got what he came to get from her.
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"Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord."

If you believe in Heaven and Hell, this person will get what's coming to them one way or another either way regardless. If you don't... Well, behave according to whatever your creed may happen to be.

I don't really view "cursing" as being the most effective use of your time, however.

Is there any way you can make this person's actions publicly known? In a way which might actually affect them?
 
Yarff said:
"Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord."

If you believe in Heaven and Hell, this person will get what's coming to them one way or another either way regardless. If you don't... Well, behave according to whatever your creed may happen to be.

I don't really view "cursing" as being the most effective use of your time, however.

Is there any way you can make this person's actions publicly known? In a way which might actually affect them?
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I agree that a bullet to the gut would be more effective than sticking pins in a doll. I don't advocate that, of course. Just saying. If a God does not exist, then none of this matters anyway. If a God does exist, then it is already taken care of. That is what Gods are for.
 
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JohnPaul said:
I agree that a bullet to the gut would be more effective than sticking pins in a doll. I don't advocate that, of course. Just saying. If a God does not exist, then none of this matters anyway. If a God does exist, then it is already taken care of. That is what Gods are for.
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
I know that actually. I'm just using the word is the way it's commonly understood, which was non-religion-specific in that context.

I frankly don't care of it has a "reason." I'm not going to sit around and let things happen to me just because there's a supposed "reason."

Like I said, this is some hollow rhetoric indeed to those of us without clans to rely on who buffer us from some of this stuff. Screw that.
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What do you mean about clans?
 
Northern Light said:
What do you mean about clans?
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Whoever your long-term and trusted group is through which you have access to redundancies, or at the very least support. Family usually, but sometimes also friends, colleagues, etc.
 
Glowpun said:
Someone I knew got conned big time by a friend. The individual in question knew my friend had a serious illness and took advantage of her.
My friend realized too late that she was conned but could do nothing about it. She passed away a month ago and this person ended up inheriting a lot of things that my friend at the end did not want him to have.

I would love to throw a curse on this fellow as I feel he is a thief big time. But we all know that curses, prayers, hexes, whatever do nothing. Right? At the funeral this person did not even bother to attend. After all, he got what he came to get from her.
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Nobody takes anything with them. The more they have the more they leave behind.
 
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