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The Politics of the Evangelical Right, and Their Very Public Sin[W258]

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The Politics of the Evangelical Right, and Their Very Public Sin

Oh, how the pious have fallen. How easy it was to justify condemnation of Clinton, a man he wanted to condemn anyway! How awkward to have to find a way to justify a man he wanted to support because he'd decided to take his bribe!

This is a pretty good summary of the majority of politically motivated evangelical personalities these days. A few have stuck to their guns and refused to endorse Donald Trump -- a man who doesn't even come close to possessing the qualities you'd think evangelicals would look for in a moral, Christian leader -- but for the most part they're quick to forgive and endorse. The reason couldn't be any more despicable: these "Christian leaders" don't actually care what politicians ARE. They only care what they DO.

In short: as long as Donald Trump opposes abortion and gays, he can grope whomever he likes.
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I used this article as a backdrop for the topic of this thread:
Born Again Christians have No Business Being Involved in Law, Politics, or War

Believers were called to spread the good news of eternal life in Christ, not impose God's Law upon a lost world, entangle themselves in the politick and cares of this world, or kill others in conquest of treasures and trade routes for the rich. Do you really believe that Jesus would pick up a machine gun to fight for the stupid **** we're fighting for? Or lead a (R) party committee to draft legislation to make it unlawful to sin? WTF is wrong with you?
 
Schism said:
The Politics of the Evangelical Right, and Their Very Public Sin



I used this article as a backdrop for the topic of this thread:
Born Again Christians have No Business Being Involved in Law, Politics, or War

Believers were called to spread the good news of eternal life in Christ, not impose God's Law upon a lost world, entangle themselves in the politick and cares of this world, or kill others in conquest of treasures and trade routes for the rich. Do you really believe that Jesus would pick up a machine gun to fight for the stupid **** we're fighting for? Or lead a (R) party committee to draft legislation to make it unlawful to sin? WTF is wrong with you?
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Since Jesus killed a fig tree in a fit of rage because it didn't have any figs....I think he easily could've killed for stupid ****.
 
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Schism said:
The Politics of the Evangelical Right, and Their Very Public Sin

I used this article as a backdrop for the topic of this thread:
Born Again Christians have No Business Being Involved in Law, Politics, or War

Believers were called to spread the good news of eternal life in Christ, not impose God's Law upon a lost world, entangle themselves in the politick and cares of this world, or kill others in conquest of treasures and trade routes for the rich. Do you really believe that Jesus would pick up a machine gun to fight for the stupid **** we're fighting for? Or lead a (R) party committee to draft legislation to make it unlawful to sin? WTF is wrong with you?
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So are you an evangelical Christian yourself?
 
Moot said:
Since Jesus killed a fig tree in a fit of rage because it didn't have any figs....I think he easily could've killed for stupid ****.
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"A little learning is a dang'rous thing; / Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring." ~ Alexander Pope
 
nota bene said:
So are you an evangelical Christian yourself?
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I have no idea how you would define the term or how others may define it; so, I would guess no.
 
Schism said:
I have no idea how you would define the term or how others may define it; so, I would guess no.
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Oh, do pardon me. Your thread-head references the "Evangelical Right," and in your OP you refer to "Born Again Christians." Silly of me to expect you to be able to define these terms. :roll:
 
You automatically assume that someone who's been born again is an evangelical, however you define that term?
 
Schism said:
The Politics of the Evangelical Right, and Their Very Public Sin



I used this article as a backdrop for the topic of this thread:
Born Again Christians have No Business Being Involved in Law, Politics, or War

Believers were called to spread the good news of eternal life in Christ, not impose God's Law upon a lost world, entangle themselves in the politick and cares of this world, or kill others in conquest of treasures and trade routes for the rich. Do you really believe that Jesus would pick up a machine gun to fight for the stupid **** we're fighting for? Or lead a (R) party committee to draft legislation to make it unlawful to sin? WTF is wrong with you?
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Christ would have said one phrase.

Go and sin no more.
 
Schism said:
I used this article as a backdrop for the topic of this thread:
Born Again Christians have No Business Being Involved in Law, Politics, or War

Believers were called to spread the good news of eternal life in Christ, not impose God's Law upon a lost world, entangle themselves in the politick and cares of this world, or kill others in conquest of treasures and trade routes for the rich. Do you really believe that Jesus would pick up a machine gun to fight for the stupid **** we're fighting for? Or lead a (R) party committee to draft legislation to make it unlawful to sin? WTF is wrong with you?
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Why is your theology in the toilet? Show me where Jesus said his followers should not be involved in government or the military?

Old Testament models for serving in the government to do good include Joseph and Daniel, among others.

In addition, have you never read Romans 13?

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong.... 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."

People who want a good government should not be voting for liberals, with their illicit gay marriage, abortion and partial-birth abortion, forced redistribution of wealth (greed and covetousness for other people's money rather than exercising personal initiative and responsibility and earning it one's self), ILLEGAL immigration, deficit spending / indebtedness, etc.
 
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Schism said:
The Politics of the Evangelical Right, and Their Very Public Sin



I used this article as a backdrop for the topic of this thread:
Born Again Christians have No Business Being Involved in Law, Politics, or War

Believers were called to spread the good news of eternal life in Christ, not impose God's Law upon a lost world, entangle themselves in the politick and cares of this world, or kill others in conquest of treasures and trade routes for the rich. Do you really believe that Jesus would pick up a machine gun to fight for the stupid **** we're fighting for? Or lead a (R) party committee to draft legislation to make it unlawful to sin? WTF is wrong with you?
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Lol, I guess since you are a nonbeliever you can support whatever scumbag you wish. :roll:
 
Logicman said:
Why is your theology in the toilet? Show me where Jesus said his followers should not be involved in government or the military?
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Would Jesus prefer a sniper rifle or grenade launcher to kill from afar, or does he prefer a bowie knife and blows to the throat...you know, up close and personal?
 
Schism said:
You automatically assume that someone who's been born again is an evangelical, however you define that term?
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I've made no such assumption.

My only assumption is that someone who begins a thread on the "Evangelical Right" and who refers to "Born Agains" will be able to define the terms he's using.
 
Schism said:
Would Jesus prefer a sniper rifle or grenade launcher to kill from afar, or does he prefer a bowie knife and blows to the throat...you know, up close and personal?
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Why don't you submit that to prayer and perhaps he'll answer you?

I don't think he cares all that much how you stop a gang of butchers, like ISIS.

You know, I really loved that one comment from JB Williams, which read (paraphrasing): "Their (the liberal's) inability to grasp the obvious leads them into that corner every time and once there, once diplomacy has run its course without results, they are out of business." In other words, "After the appeasing liberals are done with their seemingly endless, hot-air, wind-jamming sessions at the inept and corrupt U.N. - after clinging desperately to the coat tails of Jacques Chirac and Rosie O'Donnell; after all their sophomoric Jane Fonda and Cindy Sheehan surrender rallies and Neville Chamberlain pseudo-peace ploys; and with the bad guys still refusing to budge one iota - they're done. Finis. Game over. That's all there is from the libs, there isn't any more. Not even a lethal dose of Viagra can possibly get them to stand up now. All that's left for them is to go home, wring their hands, and wait for the WMD's to come crashing down on their Greenpeace-utopian fantasyland."
 
nota bene said:
I've made no such assumption.

My only assumption is that someone who begins a thread on the "Evangelical Right" and who refers to "Born Agains" will be able to define the terms he's using.
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I'm sure an entire thread could be devoted to What is an Evangelical and Who is an Evangelical.

Further, I stated in the OP:
I used this article as a backdrop for the topic of this thread:
Born Again Christians have No Business Being Involved in Law, Politics, or War
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I suspect that some born again persons are evangelical, and that some evangelicals are born again. However, I don't assume they are synonymous.

The topic is not about Evangelicals, Catholics, Amalekites, or any other religious label or people group.
It is about the conduct and activities of those who are born again.
 
Logicman said:
Why don't you submit that to prayer and perhaps he'll answer you?
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The Lord has always spoken to His people.

I don't think he cares all that much how you stop a gang of butchers, like ISIS.
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I would disagree. How we treat others is of the highest importance.

You know, I really loved that one comment from JB Williams, which read (paraphrasing): "Their (the liberal's) inability to grasp the obvious leads them into that corner every time and once there, once diplomacy has run its course without results, they are out of business." In other words, "After the appeasing liberals are done with their seemingly endless, hot-air, wind-jamming sessions at the inept and corrupt U.N. - after clinging desperately to the coat tails of Jacques Chirac and Rosie O'Donnell; after all their sophomoric Jane Fonda and Cindy Sheehan surrender rallies and Neville Chamberlain pseudo-peace ploys; and with the bad guys still refusing to budge one iota - they're done. Finis. Game over. That's all there is from the libs, there isn't any more. Not even a lethal dose of Viagra can possibly get them to stand up now. All that's left for them is to go home, wring their hands, and wait for the WMD's to come crashing down on their Greenpeace-utopian fantasyland."
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Caring about others more than ourselves is of far more importance to the born again than the political affairs of this world.
 
Schism said:
I'm sure an entire thread could be devoted to What is an Evangelical and Who is an Evangelical.

Further, I stated in the OP:


I suspect that some born again persons are evangelical, and that some evangelicals are born again. However, I don't assume they are synonymous.

The topic is not about Evangelicals, Catholics, Amalekites, or any other religious label or people group.
It is about the conduct and activities of those who are born again.
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My apologies again for expecting a thread whose title is "The Politics of the Evangelical Right, and Their Very Public Sin" to have as its topic what you call the "Evangelical Right." :roll:
 
Schism said:
I would disagree. How we treat others is of the highest importance.
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Sure. But we should also do as Jesus did when it comes to dealing with evil, right?

Do you know who "THE" Angel (har malach/malakh) of the Lord is? It's the preincarnate Jesus. And as we read in 2 Kings 19:35, "That night the angel of the LORD went out to the Assyrian camp and killed 185,000 Assyrian soldiers."

Jesus put the enemy to death because they were coming to destroy his people.

Now in Romans 13 (Paul addressing the Christians in Rome), the government is an agent of wrath against evildoers. Since Christians have always, since day one, comprised a significant part of the U.S. government, then at the government's bidding and command we are to go out and kill the enemy (in our day that is ISIS, and others). Christians taking up the 'sword' to effect justice.

Romans 13 also serves as a justification for capital punishment.

Cheers...
 
Logicman said:
Sure. But we should also do as Jesus did when it comes to dealing with evil, right?
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I recall we're to resist it. which is impossible apart from the Spirit. However, I don't recall being instructed to take up arms, unless you intend to slay ISIS with the sword of the Spirit. I also don't recall being instructed to legislate God's law and impose it upon non-believers.
 
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