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NOVA: The Bible's Buried Secrets

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Despite being an atheist, I find the history of religion interesting.
Caught a small bit on TV showing how the Babylonian exile helped shape the OT, then found the Full program here.

PBS viewer:
NOVA - Official Website | The Bible's Buried Secrets

Program Description
In this landmark two-hour special, NOVA takes viewers on a scientific journey that began 3,000 years ago and continues today. The film presents the latest archaeological scholarship from the Holy Land to explore the beginnings of modern religion and the origins of the Hebrew Bible, also known as the Old Testament.

This archaeological detective story tackles some of the biggest questions in biblical studies: Where did the ancient Israelites come from? Who wrote the Bible, when, and why? How did the worship of one God—the foundation of modern Judaism, Christianity, and Islam—emerge?​

youtube version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qalTJzk4kO0
 
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mbig said:
Despite being an atheist, I find the history of religion interesting.
Caught a small bit on TV showing how the Babylonian exile helped shape the OT, then found the Full program here.

PBS viewer:
NOVA - Official Website | The Bible's Buried Secrets

Program Description
In this landmark two-hour special, NOVA takes viewers on a scientific journey that began 3,000 years ago and continues today. The film presents the latest archaeological scholarship from the Holy Land to explore the beginnings of modern religion and the origins of the Hebrew Bible, also known as the Old Testament.

This archaeological detective story tackles some of the biggest questions in biblical studies: Where did the ancient Israelites come from? Who wrote the Bible, when, and why? How did the worship of one God—the foundation of modern Judaism, Christianity, and Islam—emerge?​

youtube version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qalTJzk4kO0
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So it's a story about the Bible by people who think they know the history better than the people who actually lived back then.

All of the questions posed are pretty clearly answered in the text itself.
 
Just another anti-bible hit piece by people that have no clue.
of course this is not surprising the bible in the book of revelation foretells of this.

the bible did not come from Babylon or any of it's other myths.

this has been debunked time and time again by actual theologians.
 
ludin said:
Just another anti-bible hit piece by people that have no clue.
of course this is not surprising the bible in the book of revelation foretells of this.

the bible did not come from Babylon or any of it's other myths.

this has been debunked time and time again by actual theologians.
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Ding, ding, ding: WE HAVE A WINNER!
 
ludin said:
Just another anti-bible hit piece by people that have no clue.
of course this is not surprising the bible in the book of revelation foretells of this.

the bible did not come from Babylon or any of it's other myths.

this has been debunked time and time again by actual theologians.
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Which facts, how, and by whom?
 
Manc Skipper said:
Which facts, how, and by whom?
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read any theological book on this. there are about 10 links I posted in a similar thread about
this subject.

correlation without causation and huge massive assumptions is what nova uses.
 
Paleocon said:
So it's a story about the Bible by people who think they know the history better than the people who actually lived back then.

All of the questions posed are pretty clearly answered in the text itself.
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I haven't seen the program, so I'm not familiar with the issues/claims that may be at variance with Biblical accounts. But regardless of what is at variance, facts are facts, and historians may be able to provide a wider context that the peoples alive during what we call "history" could not.
 
ludin said:
please see this forum rules if you don't like it. anti-religious meme does not belong here.
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I apologize to you, Ludin...and to the forum.

Once again I missed that this was a post in the Religion forum...and I have promised not to go there. I am breaking that promise in order to offer the apology.
 
nota bene said:
I haven't seen the program, so I'm not familiar with the issues/claims that may be at variance with Biblical accounts. But regardless of what is at variance, facts are facts, and historians may be able to provide a wider context that the peoples alive during what we call "history" could not.
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It isn't anything new. these types of myths have been around for a while.
the problem is they introduce a lot of speculation and other correlations while ignoring major factors.

I forget the abbreviation for it but is like JABR or something like that which is a strain of theologists that believe this, but
it has been rejected overall due to lack of evidence or support for it.
 
ludin said:
It isn't anything new. these types of myths have been around for a while.
the problem is they introduce a lot of speculation and other correlations while ignoring major factors.

I forget the abbreviation for it but is like JABR or something like that which is a strain of theologists that believe this, but
it has been rejected overall due to lack of evidence or support for it.
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Please let me know if you find a good link or two, and I'll study up.
 
Don't see much point in arguing over whether the bible came from Babylon or not.

It clearly didn't since it was the Torah (in its latest, most complete and thus most valid version) that was "compiled" there.

That doesn't mean there was nothing before it (written or orally transferred).
 
ludin said:
read any theological book on this. there are about 10 links I posted in a similar thread about
this subject.

correlation without causation and huge massive assumptions is what nova uses.
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So you can't say, but rely on the appeal to authority fallacy.
 
nota bene said:
I haven't seen the program, so I'm not familiar with the issues/claims that may be at variance with Biblical accounts. But regardless of what is at variance, facts are facts, and historians may be able to provide a wider context that the peoples alive during what we call "history" could not.
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Yes, it's possible that modern historians, living thousands of years after the fact, might be able to come up with a few true insights that were lost on those living at the time. But it's also possible, and much more plausible, that the people who actually lived back then knew a few things that modern historians don't, in fact that is probably much more common than the other way around, so in the event of a disagreement I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the ancients.
 
Manc Skipper said:
So you can't say, but rely on the appeal to authority fallacy.
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you evidently don't know what an appeal to authority is.

I am talking about experts in theology that have already disproven this myth as it has been around for years and year.
You honestly think this is the first time this has come up? it hasn't.

however every so many years these rumors come back around.

theologians everywhere have pretty much rejected any connection other than evidence of a large flood event.
 
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