What would you ask him?
Post them here and I'll have a guess at how he'd reply.
My "credentials"?- I'm a non-denominational 'Freelance Christian' and modestly claim to know something about the bible and have gained quite a fan following as I've strutted my stuff in assorted discussion forums over the years under various screennames, as well as getting the usual hate mail..
The underlying theme of different Bible versions is the same, just as the basic melody of cover versions of popular songs by different artists with different styles stays the same..
Yes I KNOW Jesus was not God because he said so himself..
"I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28 )
"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)
"Only God knows when Judgement Day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)
"I say nothing of my own accord, i only say what my father tells me to say.." (John 12:49)
"I am going to my Father and your Father, my God and your God" (John 20:17)
High Priest asks - "Are you the Son of God?", and Jesus replies - "I am" (Mark 14:61)
God himself said - "This is my beloved Son, listen to him" (Matt 17:5)
Anybody (not just me) can know Jesus well enough by simply reading the gospels, and I'm reminding them of that fact..
So you googled a few cherry picked verses that seem to support your assertion. :shrug: What about the verses where Jesus says He is God? And why did you originally say, He was "half human"? Again, your ignorance is showing.
I gave you a truckload of quotes by Jesus where he clearly states he WASN'T God, so if you don't believe him you can argue it out with him when you meet him!
And like I said, he came out of his mummy's tummy so that makes him half human..
Your out of context, cherry picked quotes support nothing of the kind.I gave you a truckload of quotes by Jesus where he clearly states he WASN'T God, so if you don't believe him you can argue it out with him when you meet him!
And like I said, he came out of his mummy's tummy so that makes him half human..
You can be a shrinking violet if you like mate but include me out..
Play this vid of me fullscreen for maximum dramatic effect and note the superhuman arrogance and self-confidence. (PoorOldSpike is my wargaming handle)-
"..as a Christian, praise God you bear that name...that you may stand firm in all the will of God, mature and fully assured....for God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power.."
(1 Pet 4:16, Col 4:12, 2 Tim 1:7)
There's a whole bunch of things in all bible versions that show it in a less than squeaky-clean light, but to their credit no writers have edited them out and it's come down to us over the centuries warts and all, hence we know we can trust it..
For example Jesus wasn't much to look at -"He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him" (Isaiah 53:2)
And Paul was nothing to write home about - "For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful, but his appearance is unimpressive, and he speaks poorly" (2 Cor 10:10)
And Moses admitted to being unable to think on his feet- "O Lord, I have never been eloquent, i'm slow of speech and tongue." (Exodus 4:10)
And Jonah was so scared he refused pointblank to be a prophet and jumped on a ship to escape, bad call - "Jonah ran away from the Lord and headed for Tarshish." (Jonah 1:3)
And young Jeremiah tried to talk his way out of the job - "Lord i'm no good at speaking, i'm too young and people won't take me seriously" (Jeremiah 1:6)
Jesus's mates chickened when he was arrested- "Then all the disciples deserted him and fled" (Matt 26:56)
And Jesus had asked the night before to be got off the hook-"Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done" (Matt 26:42)
So we know the bible is true because some of the authors were self deprecating?
You still haven't answered my initial question, btw.
Jesus never mentioned gays/lesbians/trannies, not a single word one way or the other, so it was a non-issue as far as he was concerned..
Ask any sunday school kid and they'll rightly tell you God was Jesus's dad by divine spiritual intervention!
He came out of Mary's tummy so that makes him half human, half God..
If you mean this question- "Why can't the bible be both full of contradictions and also have been rewritten a bunch of times.
Surely the latter actually makes the argument for the former stronger?"
Sorry I'm no good at riddles, if you want to dumb it down and rephrase it for me I'll be glad to answer..
As for "re-writes" of the Bible, wait a minute! In one breath atheists say it's full of contradictions, and in the next they say its been edited over the centuries to make it look good!
Wish they'd make up their minds and tell us if its been prettied up or hasn't it..
Jesus never mentioned gays/lesbians/trannies, not a single word one way or the other, so it was a non-issue as far as he was concerned..
The 5 million population of Israel plus the Roman garrison saw and heard him for 3 long years, that's a lot of eyeballs and earholes..
Then it was all put on paper and has come down to us over the centuries.
Sure, we never saw and heard Jesus ourselves but a lot of people did, so why should we disbelieve them?
Likewise I never saw or heard Elvis in person, but I'm quite prepared to believe the eyewitnesses who heard him say "You ain't nothing but a hound dog...Stay offa my blue suede shoes...that's alright momma.." etc
PS- the similarities between Elvis and Jesus are uncanny-
"After Jesus spent the night in prayer, everybody tried to touch him because power was coming from him" (Luke 6:12-19)
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