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Islam vs. Christianity

Logicman said:
I don't believe you have studied the evidence for Christianity. You can order this from Amazon. Be sure about your choice of religions. Do your due-diligence.

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ANCINET EVIDENT FOR THE LIFE OF CHRIST
YES .JESUS WAS HUMAN AND HE WAS REAL PERSON
BUT JESUS WAS PROPHET OR HE WAS JUST SMART magician LIKE HODINI
EVEN IN 21 CENTURY.SOME IDIOT BELIEVE THIS TRICK
 
le bouffon said:
Do you have any secular evidence to prove Yeshua ben Yosef existed?
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I don't know of any 1st century secularists in Israel.

Also, why do you think the New Testament authors have presented false narratives? Got any evidence for it?
 
dani67 said:
ANCINET EVIDENT FOR THE LIFE OF CHRIST
YES .JESUS WAS HUMAN AND HE WAS REAL PERSON
BUT JESUS WAS PROPHET OR HE WAS JUST SMART magician LIKE HODINI
EVEN IN 21 CENTURY.SOME IDIOT BELIEVE THIS TRICK
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So you're not going to read the book I recommended? Why not?
 
Logicman said:
Can Houdini pull of this trick?

Documenting A Miracle « The Righter Report
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From the sixth hour until the ninth hour darkness came over all the land
ARE YOU SURE ?HOW?WHAT IS YOUR PROOF?
FOR EXAMPLE IN ISLAM:
The splitting of the moon was a miracle attributed to the Islamic prophet Muhammad
AND THOUSANDS PEOPLE WATCHED IT
BUT THEY ARENT ANY PROOF FOR IT LIKE YOUR STORY
JUST BLAH BLAH FROM ANCIENT PEOPLE.
ANCIENT PEOPLE BELIEVED DRAGON TOO
JUST 35 YEARS AGO.WHEN KHOMEINI(FORMER SUPREME LEADER OF IRAN) CAME BACK TO IRAN AFTER 1978 REVOLUTION.
THERE WAS RUMOR THAT WE CAN SEE KHOMEINI FACE IN MOON TONIGHT
.AND THOUSAND PEOPLE WATCH IT.AND THEY SAID.YES.WE CAN SEE HIS FACE IN MOON
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?
ITS HAPPENED 35 YEARS AGO
BECAUSE HUMAN CAN IMAGINE EVERYTHING.
 
Logicman said:
I don't know of any 1st century secularists in Israel.

Also, why do you think the New Testament authors have presented false narratives? Got any evidence for it?
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The the onus lies with you, the person who made the claim; if this burden is not met, the claim is unfounded and there's no need to argue against it. Try again?
 
le bouffon said:
The the onus lies with you, the person who made the claim; if this burden is not met, the claim is unfounded and there's no need to argue against it. Try again?
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So you haven't studied it. Sounds about right for the skeptics I've seen around here.
 
le bouffon said:
Claim dismissed.
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Your disingenuous secular, first century squirrel hunt was what was dismissed.

When you can bust the resurrection you'll have something. So far not a one of you has ever come close.
 
Logicman said:
Your disingenuous secular, first century squirrel hunt was what was dismissed.

When you can bust the resurrection you'll have something. So far not a one of you has ever come close.
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Of course, the one thing Logicman hasn't been able to do is refute the fact 'No one has ever been resurrected' and therefore making Jesus being 'resurrected' is the logical fallacy of special pleading, and would need more than a bunch of books that copied each other to show it actually happened.
 
RAMOSS said:
Of course, the one thing Logicman hasn't been able to do is refute the fact 'No one has ever been resurrected' and therefore making Jesus being 'resurrected' is the logical fallacy of special pleading, and would need more than a bunch of books that copied each other to show it actually happened.
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The nature of history is that almost all human history is "made up of several books". It's call human witnessing which is the only way for humans to reach what could possibly happened in history long time ago.
 
Unlike any other religions, Christianity is made of steps which are inevitably necessary for a goal to be achieved.

(Part of) God's Ultimate Plan is to build an eternity called Heave where entities with freewill such as angels and humans will live forever with God who is completely incompatible with sin.

To achieve the above,*

Eden is a necessity
Planet Earth is a necessity
Even Satan is a necessity (he acts as a magnet to firmly hold the unqualified and to let go the qualified for God to pick up)

God's Law is a necessity
God's Grace and covenants are a necessity
Jesus Christ is a necessity (no one can enter Heaven without Christ)
God's hiding behind without showing up is a necessity
Judgment is a necessity (to judge who shall enter Heaven)

Paradise is a necessity (to hold humans souls of the saved)
Hades/sheol is a necessity (to hold the human souls of the unsaved)
Abyss is a necessity (to hold the spirits of the fallen angels)

At last but not least,
Immortal soul is arguably necessary
hell is arguably necessary
 
betuadollar said:
Let me ask you a crazy question, do you suppose America's Nation of Islam would welcome a large influx of white people?
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The KKK a christian organization won't accept anyone else.
 
Amadeus said:
The Old Testament is canon for many (most) Christians. And since Jesus is God, his old decrees -- which equal or surpass Islam in their violence -- need to be taken into account.
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Since you're an expert, why don't you give us a two column comparison so we can see the terrible decrees versus the peaceful one of Islam?
 
What are the differences between a fish and a torpedo?"

Well, a fish is a living thing and a torpedo isn't"

But they both go through the water, they are the same

Fish have been around for millions of years and a torpedo is a human invention of the last century

But they both go through the water, they are the same

But a fish is flesh and blood while a torpedo is metal and wiring

But they both go through the water, they are the same

​But a torpedo explodes and a fish doesn't

But they both go through the water, they are the same. Nyah Nyah Nyah -- I win!!
 
A tennis shoe may have Velcro while the other tennis shoe may have laces, but they're both tennis shoes.
 
Amadeus?


*crickets*
 
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