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Questions about Souls

tosca1 said:
Not really. As explained.
In fact, I 'll rephrase what I said before: No blind guesses at all - with or without that particular statement from the NAS.


Furthermore.....

So many Christians believed that science will never be able to prove that God does not exist, but in fact will most likely prove that He does.....even if they hadn't seen that statement from the NAS. I believed that, too.

Many religious scientists who'd founded the disciplines of science were deeply religious, and some were inspired and vindicated by their discoveries.

I was surprised to see the NAS coming right out to state that publicly since I've partly bought into Dawkins' and his minions' propaganda that science and religion are opposed to each other. That turned out to be the biggest lie from Dawkins and the New Atheists!



I'm not saying there's anything wrong about "blind guesses." I'm saying you're using that term inappropriately when it comes to this religious faith.....

......a faith which btw, relies on this Book that had given so many prophecies that had come true. No BLIND GUESSES about those prophecies -
in fact, they're a statement of what's going to happen, and they did happen. Some are intimate information that only the Creator would know about His own creation.


And as we now see, science is affirming some information that were DECLARED in the Bible:

Starting from the very first three introductory words - that the universe has a beginning.



Therefore, this particular faith isn't dependent on any blind guesses at all.

What's been DECLARED have been, or are being confirmed.
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Yeah, yeah.

Faith!

Your "faith" is simply you insisting that your BLIND GUESS about the REALITY of existence...is correct.

We agree.

You just don't realize it.
 
not sure what this has to do with souls but ol well.

here are the majority of bible verses relating to souls.
What Does the Bible Say About Your Soul?

it is very clear that the bible distinguishes itself between body, soul and spirit.

body is the physical
soul which is made up of a mind, will, and emotion
and a spirit that powers it all.

the soul is the bridge between body and spirit just as the spirit is the bridge between us and God.
 
ludin said:
not sure what this has to do with souls but ol well.

here are the majority of bible verses relating to souls.
What Does the Bible Say About Your Soul?

it is very clear that the bible distinguishes itself between body, soul and spirit.

body is the physical
soul which is made up of a mind, will, and emotion
and a spirit that powers it all.

the soul is the bridge between body and spirit just as the spirit is the bridge between us and God.
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The question that immediately arises for me is:

Why would anyone trust the Bible any more than a DC comic book about whether or not there is a "soul"...or anything about its nature if it does exist?
 
ludin said:
not sure what this has to do with souls but ol well.

here are the majority of bible verses relating to souls.
What Does the Bible Say About Your Soul?

it is very clear that the bible distinguishes itself between body, soul and spirit.

body is the physical
soul which is made up of a mind, will, and emotion
and a spirit that powers it all.

the soul is the bridge between body and spirit just as the spirit is the bridge between us and God.
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Most of the Jewish scripture quotes you used either used the term nefesh or ruach , both relational to 'wind' or breath, where in the later situation, 'wind' being the 'breath' of God. Spirit is breath, and soul is merely a living/breathing being. You do not have a soul, you ARE a soul.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Yeah, yeah.

Faith!

Your "faith" is simply you insisting that your BLIND GUESS about the REALITY of existence...is correct.

We agree.

You just don't realize it.
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No, we don't agree....that is, if you're maintaining what you were saying.....that the Christian faith is simply blind guessing!
 
tosca1 said:
No, we don't agree....that is, if you're maintaining what you were saying.....that the Christian faith is simply blind guessing!
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I have not touched on that...so you ought really to try not building straw men, Tosca.

I did say that assertions that there is a god...or that there are no gods...are BLIND GUESSES.


They are.

They are nothing more than BLIND GUESSES about the REALITY.

And this "faith" of which you speak is merely insisting that the BLIND GUESS you are making is correct.

It may be correct.

It may not be correct.

You do not know which it is.

None of you know which is correct...and which is wrong.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I have not touched on that...so you ought really to try not building straw men, Tosca.

I did say that assertions that there is a god...or that there are no gods...are BLIND GUESSES.


They are.

They are nothing more than BLIND GUESSES about the REALITY.

And this "faith" of which you speak is merely insisting that the BLIND GUESS you are making is correct.

It may be correct.

It may not be correct.

You do not know which it is.

None of you know which is correct...and which is wrong.
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blah-blah-blah.....you didn't offer any rebuttals to my argument, Frank. At least, I explained why my faith cannot be considered as a blind guess.

You, on the other hand.......you're simply stating your own opinion which was nothing more than a BLIND GUESS! (until evidences were given supporting the possibility of Creation and existence of God)........

and since you're now informed (from credible sources), your opinion is lamely propped by nothing but sheer stubbornness by your refusal to see
how silly your opinion is.


Yep. Souls do exist. Because the Bible sez so.
If the Bible has been proven right in so many of its declarations and prophesies......souls, too, cannot be labelled as a blind guess.
 
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tosca1 said:
blah-blah-blah.....you didn't offer any rebuttals to my argument, Frank. At least, I explained why my faith cannot be considered as a blind guess.

You, on the other hand.......you're simply stating your own opinion which was nothing more than a BLIND GUESS! (until evidences were given supporting the possibility of Creation and existence of God)........

and since you're now informed (from credible source(s)), your opinion is lamely propped by nothing but sheer stubbornness by your refusal to see how silly your opinion is.
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If you are asserting there is a god...you are simply offering a blind guess.

You have offered NOTHING WHATEVER to suggest the assertion is anything other than a blind guess.

But I know that will not stop you from asserting that you have.

Hey...you do provide laughs...and that is commendable.
 
Frank Apisa said:
If you are asserting there is a god...you are simply offering a blind guess.

You have offered NOTHING WHATEVER to suggest the assertion is anything other than a blind guess.

But I know that will not stop you from asserting that you have.

Hey...you do provide laughs...and that is commendable.
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Glad to have given you some amusement. But kidding aside....we're getting stale here.

Let's try again when you've actually got a legitimate rebuttal with something to support it.
 
tosca1 said:
Glad to have given you some amusement. But kidding aside....we're getting stale here.

Let's try again when you've actually got a legitimate rebuttal with something to support it.
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I understand.

Perhaps we should wait until you are able to recognize a legitimate rebuttal.

Save everyone time!
 
Frank Apisa said:
If you are asserting there is a god...you are simply offering a blind guess.

You have offered NOTHING WHATEVER to suggest the assertion is anything other than a blind guess.

But I know that will not stop you from asserting that you have.

Hey...you do provide laughs...and that is commendable.
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this is the religious forum so if he believes in God then there is a God.
If you want to assert otherwise then you are in the wrong forum.
 
Frank Apisa said:
The question that immediately arises for me is:

Why would anyone trust the Bible any more than a DC comic book about whether or not there is a "soul"...or anything about its nature if it does exist?
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the bigger question for me is why are you in the religious forum if you don't wan to discuss religion and just want to bash it?
inquiring minds (mods) will want to know.
 
RAMOSS said:
Most of the Jewish scripture quotes you used either used the term nefesh or ruach , both relational to 'wind' or breath, where in the later situation, 'wind' being the 'breath' of God. Spirit is breath, and soul is merely a living/breathing being. You do not have a soul, you ARE a soul.
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if you read what I wrote I didn't say anything about this at all. I never said I didn't have a soul.
a person is made up of 3 things. a body, soul, and spirit and the bible draws distinction between the 3 of them.
 
ludin said:
if you read what I wrote I didn't say anything about this at all. I never said I didn't have a soul.
a person is made up of 3 things. a body, soul, and spirit and the bible draws distinction between the 3 of them.
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Not in the Jewish scriptures, and not in the original Hebrew. Those two terms are used for both soul and spirit, and both terms deal with air, and the movement of air. I didn't see you back up your claim about what the Bible said with either.
 
Amadeus said:
Do souls contain memories? If so, what about souls from people who die without memories (e.g. newborns). Is the soul of a mentally impaired person also mentally impaired?
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We don't know. The soul just - is, as is energy. Memories however are definitely real, and if carbon atoms are real enough to be found throughout the universe then so should the concept of knowing where you've been. A thought - is a thing: it has a beginning , middle and end like all things do. A line begins with a point and then continues, but what was behind the point? A thought perhaps... Our memory system here has a purpose for survival, but we also see pictures in our minds, so said my four year old many years ago. The question then is - pictures of where we've been. I the concept is universal in some way, the pictures should be there too.
 
ludin said:
if you read what I wrote I didn't say anything about this at all. I never said I didn't have a soul.
a person is made up of 3 things. a body, soul, and spirit and the bible draws distinction between the 3 of them.
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Why is spirit different from soul? The trinity that you speak of describes three beings that have been translated into any number of distinct concepts.
 
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