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This is a continuation of the interesting discussion started with Grand Mal in the other thread. How mankind got the concept of right and wrong.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/religious-discussions/219075-directs-karma-w-203-a-20.html
I'd like to respond to his statement:
It's disobedience that got them evicted from the garden.
Genesis 3
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
Furthermore, that would mean you're taking the narrative literally. Remember, you believe it's not supposed to be taken literally.
God had already decided to make man in His image BEFORE He created Adam. Therefore, the morality of God had been bestowed in man before they ate from the tree.
Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Also, even when you take it literally.... if it's the tree of knowledge that gave mankind the concept of good and evil (because they ate from the tree).....well, who created the tree of knowledge? God.
Therefore, that also supports my stance that, without God, mankind wouldn't have the concept of right and wrong.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/religious-discussions/219075-directs-karma-w-203-a-20.html
I'd like to respond to his statement:
Grand Mal
I'd like to say that it was acquiring the knowledge of good and evil that got Adam and Eve evicted from the Garden, that learning the difference was the original sin. They had been told not to.
It's disobedience that got them evicted from the garden.
Genesis 3
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
Furthermore, that would mean you're taking the narrative literally. Remember, you believe it's not supposed to be taken literally.
Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
The story in Genesis about the Garden of Eden, that's a creation myth. Like all creation myths it has a moral built into it but it was never meant to be taken literally.
God had already decided to make man in His image BEFORE He created Adam. Therefore, the morality of God had been bestowed in man before they ate from the tree.
Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Also, even when you take it literally.... if it's the tree of knowledge that gave mankind the concept of good and evil (because they ate from the tree).....well, who created the tree of knowledge? God.
Therefore, that also supports my stance that, without God, mankind wouldn't have the concept of right and wrong.
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