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Pat Robertson: Get away from Buddhists before you get infected [W:71]

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Risky Thicket said:
Fifty bucks says the question was a load of caca. I doubt it really happened. But the question was one that might get an arse brain response from doddering old Pat. It's likely that the producer throws handfuls of made up questions brainstormed by the show's writers to Robertson. They film Pat's responses, pick the worst of them and edit them into specific shows to be aired on specific dates - all for news value and ratings and donations from the desperate.

So a woman goes into her work environment, that she knows is primarily a Buddhist environment, and in her very recent born-again zealotry begins badgering the the dog **** out of her Buddhist co-workers about their faith or lack of faith and/or the majesty of her faith and she is upset because they talk about Buddhism to her. Possible, but no likely. Or we have none of the real facts.

Let's just reverse the situation and make it a devout Christian workplace where one person who recently becomes a Buddhist and in her zealotry she began badgering the dog **** out of all the Christians about their faith and how they are wrong and how Buddhism is better. Who would be surprised that most, many or all of her Christian coworkers would soon avoid her because she would not shut the hell up about her beliefs and how everyone else is wrong? Maybe soon she writes into one of the many Buddhist talk shows on cable TV and complains to an insanely wealthy Buddhist show host about how she is treated badly by Christians. No ****! Could you blame them? LOL!

In either case the religious zealot would be a pain in the ass. Not really newsworthy at all unless you put the question before a madman with a television audience. THAT is what it is all about. Pat Robertson has nothing much at all to do with religion except that it has made him very rich.
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To be fair, I can kind of see where he may have thought he was coming from with that comment. Namely, what he was trying to get across is that being surrounded by aggressive non-believers can be a challenge to one's faith, and that this woman might want to consider removing herself from that environment if she was having doubts.

He simply chose the most offensively insensitive analogy humanly possible to get the idea across. :lol:

I do agree, however, that the woman's story was almost certainly being told in a one-sided manner, if it wasn't made up completely. No sane employer would put up with employees having regular theological debates on the company's dime.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Absolutely. Christians spend their time trying to attack homosexuals and deny them rights. Christian doctrine is that we're all born filthy, despicable humans who should be ashamed. The religion is based entirely on fear and coercion. Why should we all be christians? Because god will torture us forever if we aren't. Sorry, being threatened isn't really a good reason to believe something.

Buddhists on the other hand teach that all life is precious and that we need to learn to respect our neighbor. We're all in this journey together and no group of people is "the chosen ones". You'd be hard pressed to find a Buddhist calling Christianity an infection.
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You might be surprised...

Buddhism and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Huffington Post - Three Preemptive Steps to Derail the Next Global Wave of Terrorism: Buddhist Militancy
 
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Dragonfly said:
Your "evidence" is fables, lies, and myths. Enjoy eternity being dirt, worm food, and ooze.
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When you can bust the resurrection then you'll begin to have some credibility with that hot air.
 
Nilly said:
See like 2 posts below yours:

Normally, threatening someone with grievous bodily harm on this forum leads to a warning from the moderation team. This offense by logicman is actually worse because it threatens it for eternity.
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It's not my threat, it's what the Bible says.

Nilly said:
The 'hatred' we spew, that your beliefs are stupid, are quite literally nothing, compared to what is chanted around the globe every Sunday, about non-believers, and about believers of other beliefs.
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Yada yada yada...

Next time you're down and out try finding a BITTER ATHEIST'S HOMELESS SHELTER!
 
Nilly said:
I don't really see the lunacy in thinking that Buddhism is pretty whack, although I'd call Pat a lunatic for several other reasons. Sure, Buddhism teaches nice lessons about life, some of the most amicable out of any major religion, and the Dalai Lama is a badass, but Bhuddist views on the world and reality are right up there with scientology in terms of its absurdity. 7 realms, ghosts, devas, asuras etc? It's ridonkulous.
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I'd be happy to chat that up with you but not on this thread. If you want to start a thread let me know.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Absolutely. Christians spend their time trying to attack homosexuals and deny them rights. Christian doctrine is that we're all born filthy, despicable humans who should be ashamed. The religion is based entirely on fear and coercion. Why should we all be christians? Because god will torture us forever if we aren't. Sorry, being threatened isn't really a good reason to believe something.

Buddhists on the other hand teach that all life is precious and that we need to learn to respect our neighbor. We're all in this journey together and no group of people is "the chosen ones". You'd be hard pressed to find a Buddhist calling Christianity an infection.
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Right, that's what you're for.
 
Dragonfly said:
Your "evidence" is fables, lies, and myths. Enjoy eternity being dirt, worm food, and ooze.
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That's so silly. When my body decomposes (and quickly, I hope, to speed this happy process, so I don't want to be embalmed), I'll be part of beautiful trees and will be feeding the flowers.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Then you should hang out more on DP. I'm not the one trying to deny rights to minority groups or tell innocent people they'll be tortured for eternity.
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No, you're the one offering illogical and insupportable overgeneralizations that indict all Christians.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Stop attempting to derail this thread! If you want to argue that topic then start a thread about it. Don't do it on this thread.
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Hey - you're the one bad-mouthing Christian Pat Robertson and what he believes.

You said,

"Nothing Pat believes is a threat to me."
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I just don't see where Buddhism has any credible evidence for the afterlife.

Finally, a question:

Who directs Karma?
 
Logicman said:
Hey - you're the one bad-mouthing Christian Pat Robertson and what he believes.

You said,



I just don't see where Buddhism has any credible evidence for the afterlife.

Finally, a question:

Who directs Karma?
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Don't shuck and jive me on derailing this thread.

Start a thread about karma and we will discuss it.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Then you should hang out more on DP. I'm not the one trying to deny rights to minority groups or tell innocent people they'll be tortured for eternity.
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This makes me want to puke. Atheists are constantly denying the right to life to the unborn, and they have all kinds of excuses for it, BUT FOR SOME REASON they think the "right" of the unborn to due process is not relevant. Even convicted murderers get due process prior to execution but they would rather deny due process to the helpless among us while they kowtow to political special interest groups.

Now go ahead and make excuses for the murder of the unborn while you cry about your special interest groups.

Disgusting.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Stop attempting to derail this thread! If you want to argue that topic then start a thread about it. Don't do it on this thread.
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It's a little interesting, Risky, what you consider a thread derail (and you may well be correct) and what type statements have been made about Christians that you take no issue with. That would suggest to me that drawing a conclusions about what Christians are all about as a whole, is considered by you, to be entirely on topic, which is cool, it's your thread, but would you consider countering/challenging those claims as also being on topic?
 
it's just me said:
This makes me want to puke. Atheists are constantly denying the right to life to the unborn, and they have all kinds of excuses for it, BUT FOR SOME REASON they think the "right" of the unborn to due process is not relevant. Even convicted murderers get due process prior to execution but they would rather deny due process to the helpless among us while they kowtow to political special interest groups.

Now go ahead and make excuses for the murder of the unborn while you cry about your special interest groups.

Disgusting.
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Oh geez. First of all, there are people who have religious beliefs that also support abortion rights. I also know atheists that are quite pro life and I love their perspective becasue it doesn't rely on faith that others may not share. I can say with absolute certainty that atheists are no more immoral (or whatever) than anyone else.
 
X Factor said:
Oh geez. First of all, there are people who have religious beliefs that also support abortion rights. I also know atheists that are quite pro life and I love their perspective becasue it doesn't rely on faith that others may not share. I can say with absolute certainty that atheists are no more immoral (or whatever) than anyone else.
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I don't know any "pro-life" atheists, nor do I see them on these pages. If you do, good for you, please point one out for me and I will send him/her a cigar.

And it has nothing to do with "morality", it has to do with hypocrisy, and you can't tell me that atheists, moral or immoral, can't be hypocrites. You can't cry to me about gays not getting wedding cakes as if it's a crime against humanity then tell me that the unborn deserve to die for the crime of being conceived. That's not empathy, and it's not "compassion".
 
it's just me said:
I don't know any "pro-life" atheists, nor do I see them on these pages. If you do, good for you, please point one out for me and I will send him/her a cigar.

And it has nothing to do with "morality", it has to do with hypocrisy, and you can't tell me that atheists, moral or immoral, can't be hypocrites. You can't cry to me about gays not getting wedding cakes as if it's a crime against humanity then tell me that the unborn deserve to die for the crime of being conceived. That's not empathy, and it's not "compassion".
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But those are two completely different issues. There's nothing comparable between abortion and discrimination.
 
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