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Millions flock to Pope Francis' final Mass in Philippines | Fox News

The pope ditched his prepared remarks and spoke off the cuff in his native Spanish to respond to 12-year-old Glyzelle Palomar, who wept as she asked Francis why children suffer so much. Palomar, a former street child rescued by a church-run foundation, told him of children who are abandoned or neglected by their parents and end up on the streets using drugs or in prostitution.

"Why is God allowing something like this to happen, even to innocent children?" Palomar asked through tears. "And why are there so few who are helping us?"

A visibly moved Francis said he had no answer. "Only when we are able to cry are we able to come close to responding to your question," he said.

"Those on the margins cry. Those who have fallen by the wayside cry. Those who are discarded cry," the pope said. "But those who are living a life that is more or less without need, we don't know how to cry."

And he added: "There are some realities that you can only see through eyes that have been cleansed by tears."
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I have the answer to that one, Your Grace, it's because without the love of God people really are evil. That was the one thing that convinced me that Christianity was true, looking through my tear cleansed eyes.
 
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TerryOfromCA said:


God bless Pope Francis.

Today he is supposed to speak to close to 6 million people! That's amazing.

Official site: The Holy See
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I think that was the service I saw this morning already. I am not even a Catholic and I am always blessed to see the Pope.
 
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it's just me said:
I think that was the service I saw this morning already. I am not even a Catholic and I am always blessed to see the Pope.
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Maybe you are right. Well, it will be re-broadcast many times on EWTN. I'll have to catch it later.

I AM a Catholic, and I appreciate your words about the Pope.
 
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TerryOfromCA said:
Maybe you are right. Well, it will be re-broadcast many times on EWTN. I'll have to catch it later.

I AM a Catholic, and I appreciate your words about the Pope.
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I was up in the middle of the night with a gut wrenching case of the flu, running back and forth to the head, and at some point the TV program I had been watching cut away to the Pope's mass, I think it was about 1:10 AM eastern. I remembered reading about the Mass you were talking about and it seemed to me that it was the one I saw. Anyway, I watched the whole thing, although it wasn't all in English, but I knew what was going on.

I have a very low tolerance for Catholic haters, because whether anybody likes it or not, the Catholic Church was founded by Christ and the Apostles, and worthy of our respect for that reason alone. A man like the Pope has to have an extra helping of the Holy Spirit, his words are worth listening to.

May the Peace of God, which passes all understanding, be with you today.
 
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it's just me said:
May the Peace of God, which passes all understanding, be with you today.
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And also with you, everyone reading this, and the world.
 
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it's just me said:
Millions flock to Pope Francis' final Mass in Philippines | Fox News

I have the answer to that one, Your Grace, it's because without the love of God people really are evil. That was the one thing that convinced me that Christianity was true, looking through my tear cleansed eyes.
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I think most people are not evil, that most of us try to do and to be good. We make mistakes in judgment and we fail, but I think that most folks do try. It's just that so many of us are broken.
 
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I work with many Filipinos, they're all pretty religious, definitely understand why Papa Francisco would draw such large crowds in Philippines.
 
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it's just me said:
Millions flock to Pope Francis' final Mass in Philippines | Fox News



I have the answer to that one, Your Grace, it's because without the love of God people really are evil. That was the one thing that convinced me that Christianity was true, looking through my tear cleansed eyes.
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Ah yes, the ol' "everyone who doesn't believe in my god is inherently evil" response. Classic. I think the pope avoided saying that because it doesn't have any basis in reality. Lack of jesus is not the reason we have starving children.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
I work with many Filipinos, they're all pretty religious, definitely understand why Papa Francisco would draw such large crowds in Philippines.
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Philippines has the largest Catholic population in Asia.

RabidAlpaca said:
Ah yes, the ol' "everyone who doesn't believe in my god is inherently evil" response. Classic. I think the pope avoided saying that because it doesn't have any basis in reality. Lack of jesus is not the reason we have starving children.
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He didn't say that. This thread was 100% positive until you posted that.
 
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it's just me said:
I think that was the service I saw this morning already. I am not even a Catholic and I am always blessed to see the Pope.
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The pope is a professional child molester; nothing more.

'ol bergoglio has failed to expel any of the senior ecclesiastical officials responsible for shuffling abusing priests around in the 80s and 90s.
 
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TerryOfromCA said:
Philippines has the largest Catholic population in Asia.



He didn't say that. This thread was 100% positive until you posted that.
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Not going to comment with my thoughts on the thread topic as it's not my place, but in the first post, op said that without God people are evil. That's not positive in the slightest, and frankly, it's insulting to many people.
 
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Nilly said:
Not going to comment with my thoughts on the thread topic as it's not my place, but in the first post, op said that without God people are evil.. . . .
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But he didn't say which God, did he?

And as a matter of history, Godless regimes like the Soviets or Red China, pretty much have been evil.

Without a higher source of morality, something above man, right and wrong then become what man wants them to be, and result of that has never been good at all.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
I work with many Filipinos, they're all pretty religious, definitely understand why Papa Francisco would draw such large crowds in Philippines.
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80% of the Philipines is Catholic, the TV said.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
Ah yes, the ol' "everyone who doesn't believe in my god is inherently evil" response. Classic. I think the pope avoided saying that because it doesn't have any basis in reality. Lack of jesus is not the reason we have starving children.
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Right, like you know anything about reality.
 
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Nilly said:
Not going to comment with my thoughts on the thread topic as it's not my place, but in the first post, op said that without God people are evil. That's not positive in the slightest, and frankly, it's insulting to many people.
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No, THIS is an insult:

The pope is a professional child molester; nothing more.
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I notice you didn't have the decency to take issue with such slander, but instead got all butthurt by the notion that there is such a thing as evil.
 
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nota bene said:
I think most people are not evil, that most of us try to do and to be good. We make mistakes in judgment and we fail, but I think that most folks do try. It's just that so many of us are broken.
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Well, they certainly are capable of it, I am always amazed at the people who are surprised when otherwise good men fail, sometimes with miserable and disastrous results. I beat my head against that wall for years until I realized that all men can and will fail at the worst possible times. It's how they handle it is what matters. Look at David.
 
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it's just me said:
No, THIS is an insult:



I notice you didn't have the decency to take issue with such slander, but instead got all butthurt by the notion that there is such a thing as evil.
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When I wrote my post that post wasn't there (check the times), and I don't condone it in the slightest.

Still doesn't detract from the fact that you think without God I am evil. Not a positive notion as the person I replied to claimed.
 
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Nilly said:
When I wrote my post that post wasn't there (check the times), and I don't condone it in the slightest.

Still doesn't detract from the fact that you think without God I am evil. Not a positive notion as the person I replied to claimed.
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What I said was "without the love of God people really are evil". Do you have the love of God in you?
 
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Anyway......

The thread is about a great pope bringing God's message to millions of people. Can we stick with that subject?
 
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TerryOfromCA said:


Anyway......

The thread is about a great pope bringing God's message to millions of people. Can we stick with that subject?
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Well, I wanted to give us something to talk about other than whether God is a Trinity or not. Apparently not everyone was as impressed with the public Manilla Mass as I was.
 
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it's just me said:
Well, I wanted to give us something to talk about other than whether God is a Trinity or not. Apparently not everyone was as impressed with the public Manilla Mass as I was.
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Apparently.

Well, haters hate. I didn't see anything wrong in your first post. But there it is.

I am trying to find video of the Mass but can't. Maybe its too soon.
 
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TerryOfromCA said:


Anyway......

The thread is about a great pope bringing God's message to millions of people. Can we stick with that subject?
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Seems that the hateful and moronic trolls are trying to upset that applecart.

Not surprising that they try and drag others down to their pathetic level.

The haters just have to hate, as expected.
 
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TerryOfromCA said:
But he didn't say which God, did he?

And as a matter of history, Godless regimes like the Soviets or Red China, pretty much have been evil.

Without a higher source of morality, something above man, right and wrong then become what man wants them to be, and result of that has never been good at all.
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So it's exactly as I said it was? You guys think that because I have no god I can not possibly be moral? Are atheists the reason these Philipino children are starving? Why doesn't religiosity correlate correlate with a nation's success?

If this thread were just about the Pope's speech and didn't involve petty jabs at non-believers, we wouldn't be here.
 
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