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harsh reality of 2cor 4:4)

kjw47 said:
numbers aren't mentioned---what is the percentage in Noahs day?
What is the percentage after Jesus , apostles and Christians were killed?
How many are few that Jesus taught would find the road to life?
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exactly the numbers aren't mentioned. thank you.
you are using correlation without causation. this is known as a logical fallacy.
 
ludin said:
exactly the numbers aren't mentioned. thank you.
you are using correlation without causation. this is known as a logical fallacy.
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When there has never been more than a single religion that God deals with--it is plain to see.
The Israelites were apostocised before Jesus came to earth--so when they werent under Gods grace all the times it happened. 70ce proved they werent Gods--God stood up in war for the Israelites when they werent apostocised--the whole reason under roman rule--- they lost Gods favor.
 
kjw47 said:
When there has never been more than a single religion that God deals with--it is plain to see.
The Israelites were apostocised before Jesus came to earth--so when they werent under Gods grace all the times it happened. 70ce proved they werent Gods--God stood up in war for the Israelites when they werent apostocised--the whole reason under roman rule--- they lost Gods favor.
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This does nothing to backup your 99% claim. Let alone the 1% claim.
 
ludin said:
This does nothing to backup your 99% claim. Let alone the 1% claim.
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Noah would call my numbers too--it was 99.9 in his day. I was being generous.
 
kjw47 said:
Noah would call my numbers too--it was 99.9 in his day. I was being generous.
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logical fallacy is not an argument.
this is an equivalence fallacy.

False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence doesn't bear because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors
 
ludin said:
logical fallacy is not an argument.
this is an equivalence fallacy.

False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence doesn't bear because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors
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Instead of mumbo jumbo---show me where I am wrong??????
 
kjw47 said:
Instead of mumbo jumbo---show me where I am wrong??????
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I don't see how pointing out a logical fallacy is mumbo jumbo.
it isn't up to me to prove your point. you made the claim of 1% and 99%.

I am asking for scripture that supports your argument. so far you have provided nothing.
then you tried a equivalence fallacy.

I called you on that.

please provide verse and scripture about your 1% and 99%.
if you cant then please retract.
 
ludin said:
I don't see how pointing out a logical fallacy is mumbo jumbo.
it isn't up to me to prove your point. you made the claim of 1% and 99%.

I am asking for scripture that supports your argument. so far you have provided nothing.
then you tried a equivalence fallacy.

I called you on that.

please provide verse and scripture about your 1% and 99%.
if you cant then please retract.
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I showed you--- you must know the whole bible-- when you do--you can see it--not until then---someone telling you wont help.
 
kjw47 said:
We find at Rev 21:3---Gods kingdom rule is likened to a tent being over all of creation as a protection--this doesn't come until Gods kingdom is 100% established in all of creation--post Har-mageddon.
But for now there is another tent over us--2Cor 4:4-- a maggot infested tent that looks like light to most hearts. Jesus said--satan is the ruler( ruling king over earth--now) of this system of things--yet light is still shining.

Here is something I will expose to hearts from under the current tent.

pretending the drop in gas prices is for the general publics benefit( it is in a sense)

The drop in gas prices--- I have been following this--- August 2014--- stock market whatever the price for gas symbol (rbob)- was 3.12 per gallon--what they pay. at the pumps here--3.89 a gallon

today (rbob)--1.52 a gallon---the pumps-- 329 a gallon.

Their price dropped 1.60 a gallon--- we are saving 60c a gallon--- they are profiting 1.00 a gallon extra right now --the bottom line is to --FIILL THEIR OWN POCKETS-- 1.00 a gallon is gazillion huge profits. --the only reason they did it--huge profit occurs first before love--24/7 365 without fail
The ultra rich had a huge increase last year--- it cannot go on--its all most done.

these( 2Peter 2:19) are the men sending our sons and daughters overseas to lay their lives down.


Why does this occur--99%-2Cor 4:4-- cant you smell the stench.
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I don't know where you are at, but in North Carolina Gas is at $2.22 as of this morning.

However, I think you are unaware of what goes into the price of a gallon of gasoline. You do know it's not just the price of a barrel? Refinement, transport, storage, taxes, etc, they are all in there.
 
tacomancer said:
This statement has me curious. What sections are these?
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Well, I can't say for sure but a lot of fundamentalist types go back over and over again to sections of the Bible that they think reinforces their beliefs and ignore the rest or skim over them. Jehovah's Witnesses are particularly fond of passages that refer to Jesus as "the Son", and certain chapters of Daniel and Revelation. They use these as proof texts for their rejection of Jesus as God and for their alleged "prophecies". If they show up at your door they will want to talk about scriptures that appear to confirm their beliefs.
 
it's just me said:
Well, I can't say for sure but a lot of fundamentalist types go back over and over again to sections of the Bible that they think reinforces their beliefs and ignore the rest or skim over them. Jehovah's Witnesses are particularly fond of passages that refer to Jesus as "the Son", and certain chapters of Daniel and Revelation. They use these as proof texts for their rejection of Jesus as God and for their alleged "prophecies". If they show up at your door they will want to talk about scriptures that appear to confirm their beliefs.
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Ah, so you are speaking of specific translations for nonstandard demoninations such as mormonism or JW then?
 
tacomancer said:
Ah, so you are speaking of specific translations for nonstandard demoninations such as mormonism or JW then?
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Not necessarily, the JW's have their own translation but I think the Mormons use the KJV. But that's a separate discussion. Even if the JW's use your own Bible they will often take you to passages that seem to reinforce their beliefs. This is known as "cherry picking", and they are not alone, many low church Protestants do this, too.
 
cpwill said:
I don't know where you are at, but in North Carolina Gas is at $2.22 as of this morning.

However, I think you are unaware of what goes into the price of a gallon of gasoline. You do know it's not just the price of a barrel? Refinement, transport, storage, taxes, etc, they are all in there.
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2.75 here= crooks. this guy owns over 300 store- gas station combos--yet continually gouges the people--he is already a billionaire. He has been fined for doing it, but obviously the fine is not big enough, he is pulling more than the fine in and continues to gouge.
 
kjw47 said:
I showed you--- you must know the whole bible-- when you do--you can see it--not until then---someone telling you wont help.
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I can't accept this claim, particularly from someone who is otherwise so eager to cite specific Scripture and a member of a group that focuses on numerology. What is the source of your claim that 99% of Christians have it all wrong and that 1% have it right?
 
nota bene said:
I can't accept this claim, particularly from someone who is otherwise so eager to cite specific Scripture and a member of a group that focuses on numerology. What is the source of your claim that 99% of Christians have it all wrong and that 1% have it right?
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Jesus teachings prove that--but Trinitarians are not taught them so they reject them.
 
kjw47 said:
Jesus teachings prove that--but Trinitarians are not taught them so they reject them.
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If they did you would be able to show us where they are. Trinitarians are taught to believe the Bible, not false prophets,
 
it's just me said:
If they did you would be able to show us where they are. Trinitarians are taught to believe the Bible, not false prophets,
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Here you go--the words of my king

Matt 6:33--- therefore, keep on seeking --FIRST-- the kingdom and his( Jehovah)( John 4:22-24) righteousness, and all these other things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) provided by the Father--Jesus taught.
 
kjw47 said:
Here you go--the words of my king

Matt 6:33--- therefore, keep on seeking --FIRST-- the kingdom and his( Jehovah)( John 4:22-24) righteousness, and all these other things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) provided by the Father--Jesus taught.
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These references don't explain your 99% claim, so I am going to conclude that you are unable to support it and hope that you won't continue to repeat it.
 
nota bene said:
These references don't explain your 99% claim, so I am going to conclude that you are unable to support it and hope that you won't continue to repeat it.
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There isnt a mortal living that can prove other than 99%( the only possible time--when the Israelite kings stood strong.
 
kjw47 said:
There isnt a mortal living that can prove other than 99%( the only possible time--when the Israelite kings stood strong.
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So again, you are unable to support your claim that 99% are wrong while you are in the elite 1% who have it right. And again I am going to observe that for someone who is generally so eager to sling Scripture and who believes in numerical calculations about "end-times," your inability to support your claim is peculiar. I hope you will stop repeating this claim because you apparently have no basis for it.
 
nota bene said:
So again, you are unable to support your claim that 99% are wrong while you are in the elite 1% who have it right. And again I am going to observe that for someone who is generally so eager to sling Scripture and who believes in numerical calculations about "end-times," your inability to support your claim is peculiar. I hope you will stop repeating this claim because you apparently have no basis for it.
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How many on this earth accomplished this--Matt 16:24--or this -John 4:22-24=Jehovah?--Few Jesus taught.
Because some liar told them they are saved or born again --even though they are walkers of the broad and spacious path. One can do 99% for Gods table--but if they partake off the table of demons it = 0.
 
kjw47 said:
How many on this earth accomplished this--Matt 16:24--or this -John 4:22-24=Jehovah?--Few Jesus taught.
Because some liar told them they are saved or born again --even though they are walkers of the broad and spacious path. One can do 99% for Gods table--but if they partake off the table of demons it = 0.
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wow a liar on what do you base this? who are you to judge when the bible says not to judge least ye be judged hmm. interesting development.
how do you know they walk on the broad path. what sight do you have into their soul?
are you now claiming that you are God. One that judges who and who is not righteous?

please support your claims.
 
ludin said:
wow a liar on what do you base this? who are you to judge when the bible says not to judge least ye be judged hmm. interesting development.
how do you know they walk on the broad path. what sight do you have into their soul?
are you now claiming that you are God. One that judges who and who is not righteous?

please support your claims.
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Every encyclopedia( truth of history) shares all of the pagan practices incorporated into easter and Christmas--pagan practices come off --the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21) the majority of the rest on earth do the same in their traditions and holidays and false god worship and atheism--0 doubt in all of creation---all of them walk the broad and spacious path.
 
kjw47 said:
Every encyclopedia( truth of history) shares all of the pagan practices incorporated into easter and Christmas--pagan practices come off --the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21) the majority of the rest on earth do the same in their traditions and holidays and false god worship and atheism--0 doubt in all of creation---all of them walk the broad and spacious path.
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this has nothing to do with proving 99% and 1%. please stay on topic.
 
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