Matters of the heart( every heart --NEEDS--to read this)

Lets look at the only two paths in existence here in these last days-- they are not tread on buy feet, they begin in--EACH--and everyones heart. And follow or are lead.

Apply these -- if evil is given unto you.

The first path--the spirit of Jesus--- Love, peace, unity-- turn the other cheek, return evil for evil to no one. If your enemy is hungry-feed him--if thirsty--give him a drink, Return --LOVE your enemy--- Vengeance is--MINE--said the Lord.

The second path--spirit of antichrist-- Hate, calamities, division-- Fear builds hate--feed the HATE and when firmly established--Return evil for evil and--KILL your enemy by stealing the vengeance for--SELF.

Post 9/11 is the mirror for--HEARTS-- which path was your heart lead on?

an emergency test of the--Heart-- system occurred on 9/11--

I show you these facts to warn of bigger leadings of the heart coming soon

Rev 16---- With 3( 9/11) heartfelt powerful misleading expressions--Satan mileads( every heart in existence has 0 choice at this point--all will follow 1 of the 2 paths)--- EVERY( yours -mine) kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) on earth to raise up against Gods true followers--God says his reaction will be like a poke in the eye( very quickl;y)--Har-mageddon)-- I surely witnessed close to 99% of hearts --unable to withstand that 1 single powerful expression designed to lead hearts. How many can stand against 3 of them grabbing ahold of their heart? and trying to apply--the spirit of Christ? No matter what--men or family say--because here--Jesus words will be a powerful truth--ones own family will be their--ENEMIES.

When God reacts quickly( Har-mageddon) it will be as Jesus taught--- As in the days of Noah( 99% mislead) the world took no note. and their hearts will follow the wrong path.

One need ask themselves---How??? can a nothing prep cook, never attended a college or seminary or the such can share these truths with hearts of all creation yet not a single scholared theologian has warned a single heart how to guard against these soon to be events coming to all hearts to make their final stand. Or that this is even coming--very strange occurrences on this earth---not all is as appears( 2Cor 4:4)

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With this reality now shown--those 3 inspired expressions will make walking the spirit of Jesus path--the hardest accomplishment ever faced on earth before. 9/11 was 1 expression--look in the mirror--only you know exactly what path your heart took under the guns of 1 expression. How about 3?

kjw47 said:

Lets look at the only two paths in existence here in these last days-- they are not tread on buy feet, they begin in--EACH--and everyones heart. And follow or are lead.

Apply these -- if evil is given unto you.

The first path--the spirit of Jesus--- Love, peace, unity-- turn the other cheek, return evil for evil to no one. If your enemy is hungry-feed him--if thirsty--give him a drink, Return --LOVE your enemy--- Vengeance is--MINE--said the Lord.

The second path--spirit of antichrist-- Hate, calamities, division-- Fear builds hate--feed the HATE and when firmly established--Return evil for evil and--KILL your enemy by stealing the vengeance for--SELF.

Post 9/11 is the mirror for--HEARTS-- which path was your heart lead on?

an emergency test of the--Heart-- system occurred on 9/11--


I show you these facts to warn of bigger leadings of the heart coming soon

Rev 16---- With 3( 9/11) heartfelt powerful misleading expressions--Satan mileads( every heart in existence has 0 choice at this point--all will follow 1 of the 2 paths)--- EVERY( yours -mine) kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) on earth to raise up against Gods true followers--God says his reaction will be like a poke in the eye( very quickl;y)--Har-mageddon)-- I surely witnessed close to 99% of hearts --unable to withstand that 1 single powerful expression designed to lead hearts. How many can stand against 3 of them grabbing ahold of their heart? and trying to apply--the spirit of Christ? No matter what--men or family say--because here--Jesus words will be a powerful truth--ones own family will be their--ENEMIES.

When God reacts quickly( Har-mageddon) it will be as Jesus taught--- As in the days of Noah( 99% mislead) the world took no note. and their hearts will follow the wrong path.

One need ask themselves---How??? can a nothing prep cook, never attended a college or seminary or the such can share these truths with hearts of all creation yet not a single scholared theologian has warned a single heart how to guard against these soon to be events coming to all hearts to make their final stand. Or that this is even coming--very strange occurrences on this earth---not all is as appears( 2Cor 4:4)

LOOK

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My head is spinning over your reference to 9/11. What's all that about?

Are you referring to the war on terrorism?

Can you please explain that clearly. Take me there step-by-step.

Matters of the heart.

Before you get into political and world affairs...perhaps you should concentrate on the hearts closest to home:
the family. The institution founded by God. Everything starts with the family.


Here's an anguished excerpt of a letter from one of your members.


You brothers may not be aware of this, but of all the issues that provoke outrage among so-called “apostates”, the harsh and unscriptural application of the shunning principle is one of the most contentious and hurtful.

Many who you would class as “apostates” would have little or no interest in trying to persuade their family members and former colleagues that their beliefs are flawed were it not for that fact that you make their lives intolerable by tearing them apart from any meaningful interaction with their loved ones.

Many disfellowshipped and disassociated ones carry deep mental and emotional scars as a result, and yet you expect them to remain silent.

Each one of us is personally responsible for our relationship with Christ. As much as you would like to think that all of Jehovah’s Witnesses serve with absolute uniformity of thought, there is an increasing number within your own ranks who do so whilst burdened by their own personal ‘crisis of conscience’.

They privately disagree with what they are taught, but they have been conditioned to think that “waiting on Jehovah” means ignoring their own consciences and going against what they know to be true. It is suchlike ones, and those departed brothers who are “overly sad” at your seeming indifference, whom you must reach out to with greater humility and reconciliation.


My Message to the Governing Body – Results of the 2011 Global Survey...Help, advice, and answers to Questions for struggling Jehovah's Witnesses and Disfellowshipped ones



Our brothers and sisters in Christ are hurting!

tosca1 said:

My head is spinning over your reference to 9/11. What's all that about?

Are you referring to the war on terrorism?

Can you please explain that clearly. Take me there step-by-step.

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easy-- our leaders--- and media---filled each with fear--then hate--then told us we would be hero' by returning evil for evil and killing. pretty simple--every heart saw it occur--99% fell. proving the spirit of antichrist won--post 9/11


Was 9/11 an act of evil??????? Which path was shoved down our throats. Did we return evil for evil and support it???? yes. in the-----HEART.

tosca1 said:

Matters of the heart.

Before you get into political and world affairs...perhaps you should concentrate on the hearts closest to home:
the family. The institution founded by God. Everything starts with the family.


Here's an anguished excerpt of a letter from one of your members.


You brothers may not be aware of this, but of all the issues that provoke outrage among so-called “apostates”, the harsh and unscriptural application of the shunning principle is one of the most contentious and hurtful.

Many who you would class as “apostates” would have little or no interest in trying to persuade their family members and former colleagues that their beliefs are flawed were it not for that fact that you make their lives intolerable by tearing them apart from any meaningful interaction with their loved ones.

Many disfellowshipped and disassociated ones carry deep mental and emotional scars as a result, and yet you expect them to remain silent.

Each one of us is personally responsible for our relationship with Christ. As much as you would like to think that all of Jehovah’s Witnesses serve with absolute uniformity of thought, there is an increasing number within your own ranks who do so whilst burdened by their own personal ‘crisis of conscience’.

They privately disagree with what they are taught, but they have been conditioned to think that “waiting on Jehovah” means ignoring their own consciences and going against what they know to be true. It is suchlike ones, and those departed brothers who are “overly sad” at your seeming indifference, whom you must reach out to with greater humility and reconciliation.


My Message to the Governing Body – Results of the 2011 Global Survey...Help, advice, and answers to Questions for struggling Jehovah's Witnesses and Disfellowshipped ones



Our brothers and sisters in Christ are hurting!

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well your brothers and sisters in Christ were hurting at ww1, ww2--when your teachers allowed your own religion to blow the heads off the members of your own religion who lived in another country-- millions of human lives slaughtered by the heart lead path of the spirit of antichrist.
Is Jesus your example or not--Jesus went to death not to fight back, so did the apostles and christians back then-- the only path shown to us by Jesus--there is no other. this is what a spirit of Jesus heart returns for evil---- Forgive them Father--they know not what they do--LOVE.
Expecting Jesus teachers to tell their young men--DO NOT-kill for a man like Adolf Hitler--no ww2--millions of lives spared-- it didn't occur becvause the hearts of the spiritual leaders were not on the spirit of Jesus path.

When the usa dropped atom bombs into the middle of cities in ww2 --wiping out 200,000 or so--grandmothers, mothers, babies---Love or Evil? our leaders said--hero'


This --could be-- a real scenario. Are you good at math???? the USA went to Afghanistan and destroyed the poppy fields???????? yet 3 months later--usa overflowing with cheap-powerful heroin. can you add 2+2--it always = 4. when poppy fields are destroyed--the supply goes down, not huge increase--can you think? Every incidents--are a designed plan.

No Jw feels the troops are at fault, except being mislead. We know it has to take great strength and courage to put ones life on the line for their brothers. We just don't believe --the spirit of Jesus-- is what leads those events. Not returning evil for evil and --TRUSTING --( excercising faith) in Jesus promise on ones behalf---- Vengeance is mine said the Lord-- it will not fail to be done. this takes great courage, because one may need to be their families own enemy-like the 1/3 of angels became. It will end up-- matters of the heart.
How much courage and strength did it take to stand their and watch spikes being driven through the son of Gods flesh--immense. They did not return evil--no matter what men do or say.

kjw47 said:

easy-- our leaders--- and media---filled each with fear--then hate--then told us we would be hero' by returning evil for evil and killing. pretty simple--every heart saw it occur--99% fell. proving the spirit of antichrist won--post 9/11


Was 9/11 an act of evil??????? Which path was shoved down our throats. Did we return evil for evil and support it???? yes. in the-----HEART.

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That judgemental preaching is hollow. Look into your doctrine.

kjw47 said:

well your brothers and sisters in Christ were hurting at ww1, ww2--when your teachers allowed your own religion to blow the heads off the members of your own religion who lived in another country-- millions of human lives slaughtered by the heart lead path of the spirit of antichrist.
Is Jesus your example or not--Jesus went to death not to fight back, so did the apostles and christians back then-- the only path shown to us by Jesus--there is no other. this is what a spirit of Jesus heart returns for evil---- Forgive them Father--they know not what they do--LOVE.
Expecting Jesus teachers to tell their young men--DO NOT-kill for a man like Adolf Hitler--no ww2--millions of lives spared-- it didn't occur becvause the hearts of the spiritual leaders were not on the spirit of Jesus path.

When the usa dropped atom bombs into the middle of cities in ww2 --wiping out 200,000 or so--grandmothers, mothers, babies---Love or Evil? our leaders said--hero'


This --could be-- a real scenario. Are you good at math???? the USA went to Afghanistan and destroyed the poppy fields???????? yet 3 months later--usa overflowing with cheap-powerful heroin. can you add 2+2--it always = 4. when poppy fields are destroyed--the supply goes down, not huge increase--can you think? Every incidents--are a designed plan.

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All that outrage sounds hollow.

Look into your own doctrine. It is directly hurting God's disciples. And there's no excuse for doing it.

kjw47 said:

No Jw feels the troops are at fault, except being mislead. We know it has to take great strength and courage to put ones life on the line for their brothers. We just don't believe --the spirit of Jesus-- is what leads those events. Not returning evil for evil and --TRUSTING --( excercising faith) in Jesus promise on ones behalf---- Vengeance is mine said the Lord-- it will not fail to be done. this takes great courage, because one may need to be their families own enemy-like the 1/3 of angels became. It will end up-- matters of the heart.
How much courage and strength did it take to stand their and watch spikes being driven through the son of Gods flesh--immense. They did not return evil--no matter what men do or say.

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No need to point your fingers elsewhere. It rings hollow.

Look into your own doctrine. It is directly hurting God's disciples. And there's no excuse for doing it.

You keep bringing up 9/11, and all wars to point fingers. Well, that's war. That's for the government leaders - which would be the equivalent of Kings - to decide.

Was King David never at war? All the Kings of the Old Testament didn't go to war? Didn't God help them at war?

What about JW? Why are they hurting Christians and their families - what did they ever do to deserve that?

From the letter, all I could understand is most of them simply don't agree with JW's corruption of the Bible. Those Christians are trying to uphold the Scriptural truths in their hearts.

Anyway, you seem to think that Christians are forbidden to go to war. What makes you think that?

kjw47 said:

Is Jesus your example or not--Jesus went to death not to fight back,

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Because His death was a prophecy that has to be fulfilled. He had to shed His blood for us, remember?
He was the sacrificial lamb!

so did the apostles and christians back then

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Perhaps because they're no match against armies? They're not guerillas, for crying out loud!

Perhaps that was meant to be.
The willingness to die in their confident knowledge of the reward that await them after death had a purpose.
How many Christians who had not witnessed the Resurrection first hand had come to believe because of the attitude shown by the Apostles and other disciples after the Resurrection?

And maybe, it was not the time to fight.


As Solomon said:


Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

"To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven:
A time to be born, And a time to die;
A time to plant, And a time to pluck what is planted;
A time to kill, And a time to heal;
A time to break down, And a time to build up;
A time to weep, And a time to laugh;
A time to mourn, And a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, And a time to gather stones;
A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to gain, And a time to lose;
A time to keep, And a time to throw away;
A time to tear, And a time to sew;
A time to keep silence, And a time to speak;
A time to love, And a time to hate;
A time of war, And a time of peace.”

tosca1 said:

No need to point your fingers elsewhere. It rings hollow.

Look into your own doctrine. It is directly hurting God's disciples. And there's no excuse for doing it.

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Every--mortal--saw with their eyes and heart which spirit was returned out of--HEARTS.

tosca1 said:

Anyway, you seem to think that Christians are forbidden to go to war. What makes you think that?

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There is 0 doubt --the Jesus of the bible--- would never for a milli iota of a second- allow--brother in Christ( Nazi) vs brother in Christ( allied side) to display the spirit of antichrist in front of the eyes of all creation--he said--LOVE amongst themselves is what the eyes of all creation would see to mark his true followers.

do you actually believe-ww1,ww2--millions upon millions of our human family slaughtered not because they really wanted to, but because the world controlled by the spirit of antichrist-is in every leader, that is why--Daniel 2:44 is their conclusion--crushed--God does not Crush what is his( spirit of Christ)

tosca1 said:

Because His death was a prophecy that has to be fulfilled. He had to shed His blood for us, remember?
He was the sacrificial lamb!




Perhaps because they're no match against armies? They're not guerillas, for crying out loud!

Perhaps that was meant to be.
The willingness to die in their confident knowledge of the reward that await them after death had a purpose.
How many Christians who had not witnessed the Resurrection first hand had come to believe because of the attitude shown by the Apostles and other disciples after the Resurrection?

And maybe, it was not the time to fight.


As Solomon said:


Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

"To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven:
A time to be born, And a time to die;
A time to plant, And a time to pluck what is planted;
A time to kill, And a time to heal;
A time to break down, And a time to build up;
A time to weep, And a time to laugh;
A time to mourn, And a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, And a time to gather stones;
A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to gain, And a time to lose;
A time to keep, And a time to throw away;
A time to tear, And a time to sew;
A time to keep silence, And a time to speak;
A time to love, And a time to hate;
A time of war, And a time of peace.”

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Self defense--protecting the trade towers to begin with in a world controlled by the spirit of antichrist. Wisdom

Going into Iraq, because 11 Saudi Arabian men did an act of evil is not self defense--WMD-- the lie to get into Iraq. And Gods word clearly teaches at the very end --they go into the middle east region--after the hidden gold( wouldnt be black gold would it)

This is who is sending the young men to lay there lives down-2Peter 2:19--LOOK.

Think about this because many in the country believe it

9/11-- our leaders--oil men--- within 3 months time--years and years of family fortunes quadrupled in 4 months time--oil 30.00 to 145.00---

I do believe every thing we are being told is going on in the world since right before 9/11 is being absolutely controlled by the spirit of antichrist. We don't have a clue if Isis exists, or this one or that one, or or Osama bin laden really got shot. Do we?

kjw47 said:

Every--mortal--saw with their eyes and heart which spirit was returned out of--HEARTS.

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????????

kjw47 said:

There is 0 doubt --the Jesus of the bible--- would never for a milli iota of a second- allow--brother in Christ( Nazi) vs brother in Christ( allied side) to display the spirit of antichrist in front of the eyes of all creation--he said--LOVE amongst themselves is what the eyes of all creation would see to mark his true followers.

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No one knows God's purpose.

Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

"To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven:

A time to kill, And a time to heal;
A time to love, And a time to hate;
A time of war, And a time of peace.”

do you actually believe-ww1,ww2--millions upon millions of our human family slaughtered not because they really wanted to, but because the world controlled by the spirit of antichrist-is in every leader, that is why--Daniel 2:44 is their conclusion--crushed--God does not Crush what is his( spirit of Christ)

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What about JW?

kjw47 said:

Self defense--protecting the trade towers to begin with in a world controlled by the spirit of antichrist. Wisdom

Going into Iraq, because 11 Saudi Arabian men did an act of evil is not self defense--WMD-- the lie to get into Iraq. And Gods word clearly teaches at the very end --they go into the middle east region--after the hidden gold( wouldnt be black gold would it)

This is who is sending the young men to lay there lives down-2Peter 2:19--LOOK.

Think about this because many in the country believe it

9/11-- our leaders--oil men--- within 3 months time--years and years of family fortunes quadrupled in 4 months time--oil 30.00 to 145.00---

I do believe every thing we are being told is going on in the world since right before 9/11 is being absolutely controlled by the spirit of antichrist. We don't have a clue if Isis exists, or this one or that one, or or Osama bin laden really got shot. Do we?

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Believe what you want.

But it's hard to take you seriously when you condone, defend and adhere more to man-made doctrines than to Scriptural teachings. Your fellow-Christians are getting hurt - psychologically scarred, and families are in trouble.

All that rant just comes across as hypocritical.

tosca1 said:

No one knows God's purpose.

Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

"To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven:

A time to kill, And a time to heal;
A time to love, And a time to hate;
A time of war, And a time of peace.”





What about JW?

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They applied Jesus and refused to kill each other standing on both sides-- they went to prision and concentration camps--it was all about the concentration camps--where the spirit of antichrist lead men, hated the original servants of YHWH-Jehovah--THE Jews--funny only the servants of YHWH(Jehovah) in the concentration camps--while their are documents and pictures of high up clergy signing the concordance( telling to vote for Hitler) giving full support) in the holocaust museum--strange how the JW teachers were exposing the false religions and their teachings at that time strongly. A designed plan by the spirit of antichrist to rid the world of all servants of YHWH(Jehovah). And the mislead spiritual leaders--followed.

When mortal hearts stopped and saw millions upon millions of dead human beings in a single war--not to mention the support by false religions of a genocidal mass murderer who eliminated 6 million for naught. for a heart lead by the spirit of antichrist--the supporters are fully to blame.--did they attribute it to the spirit of Jesus or the spirit of antichrist? doesn't every govt think they are it and tell their people that? Hearts were lead.

kjw47 said:

They applied Jesus and refused to kill each other standing on both sides-- they went to prision and concentration camps--it was all about the concentration camps--where the spirit of antichrist lead men, hated the original servants of YHWH-Jehovah--THE Jews--funny only the servants of YHWH(Jehovah) in the concentration camps--while their are documents and pictures of high up clergy signing the concordance( telling to vote for Hitler) in the holocaust museum--strange how the JW teachers were exposing the false religions and their teachings at that time strongly. A designed plan by the spirit of antichrist to rid the world of all servants of YHWH(Jehovah). And the mislead spiritual leaders--followed.

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Sure, there were Christians who sided with Hitler.....the same way that there are Christians who commit theft, rape, murder, etc., Does that mean all Christians are like that?


Do you paint everyone with the same brush? Do you disdain them?
Aren't those hurtful words to Jesus when you condemn all Christians? After all, they're His disciples.

tosca1 said:

Believe what you want.

But it's hard to take you seriously when you condone, defend and adhere more to man-made doctrines than to Scriptural teachings. Your fellow-Christians are getting hurt - psychologically scarred, and families are in trouble.

All that rant just comes across as hypocritical.

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I wish your scholars would read my words. at least they know what Gods word teaches on these matters. and they would tell you--he is correct.

kjw47 said:

I wish your scholars would read my words. at least they know what Gods word teaches on these matters. and they would tell you--he is correct.

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The Scriptures is clear on those issues.

Going back to the issue of war, just so you know that Solomon's verses given above - a time for war - is also supported in the New Testament.

Romans 12 talk about Love in Action. Take note of this particular verse:


17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.
18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.


Notice the QUALIFIER ...."IF it is possible, as far as it depends on you.....


That shows, there are times when that's not possible. There are times when it doesn't depend on you, when you are left with no choice but to fight.



What will you do if you see children - or other vulnerable people - being tortured and slaughtered right before your eyes? Are you going to look the other way?

Aren't you supposed to defend the helpless?

Jesus Christ was not a pacifist. But He wasn't a war-monger, either.