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The Tribulation

Logicman said:
Thanks.

And part of that empathy is speaking the truth about THE Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I hope you get to know him like we do. You'll never look back!
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I'd rather know him as I know him to be The Truth. And when I asked for truth I was taken by the hand and lead directly to this Truth.
 
tosca1 said:
Am I?
Though I hope, should I assume that I'll be among the few who gets in?
Who can confidently say they are among the elect?




I didn't start this thread because I worry. The current news reminded me of Revelations. I was simply trying to get a discussion about the Tribulation going. Speculating about the signs. :)
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With Heaven having many mansions, there’s room for all of the elected humanity and more and yes, yes your spirit never left. Only your soul has fallen under the heavy weight of free will and God will not roll back the universe as a scroll until all have achieved their goals. The only way to get to the future is together, with nobody left behind, had you ever joined the military, this is a good way to learn the lesson of strength being only strong as the weakest link. And this link will not be broken but mended as new and even if it takes an eternity in time, the clock will continue to reset as needed.


If one falls behind then we all fall behind and stay together we shall, as I say one for all and all for one. While you’re like I’m better than you and I’m elected, you’re rejected, I’m Christian and you’re not. But Jesus isn’t Christian either, so what does that mean? It means he had a simple message, some advice that matters not what color or race or religion.

The future will exist only if we get there together, and this is part of the unwavering system and balance that binds the very fabric of the universe. There is no one chosen over the other and this lesson is coming soon and again and again until we get it right.

Life is just a game. The Ying Yang as seen to me is black and white in perpetual conflict of blurry motion and to train the eye to better see how black sees itself as white and white as black, it’s to walk a mile in the others hue, it’s with understanding that brings about better compassion. And as you can see from the current affairs of all aspects, the world has not learned this lesson .
 
serato said:
With Heaven having many mansions, there’s room for all of the elected humanity and more and yes, yes your spirit never left. Only your soul has fallen under the heavy weight of free will and God will not roll back the universe as a scroll until all have achieved their goals. The only way to get to the future is together, with nobody left behind, had you ever joined the military, this is a good way to learn the lesson of strength being only strong as the weakest link. And this link will not be broken but mended as new and even if it takes an eternity in time, the clock will continue to reset as needed.
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I understand your view about the military, but I don't agree with your interpretation of the end times CHRISTIAN BIBLE. You're mixing up worldly things with this, romanticizing it like an action movie with liberal ideas. :)


There is no such thing as "standing together with no one left behind," on Judgement Day.
Those not written in the Book of Life will perish.


Revelation 20:15 declares, “If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”

The Book of Life is the set of names of those who will live with God forever in heaven. It is the roll of those who are saved.
This Book of Life is also mentioned in Revelation 3:5; 20:12; and Philippians 4:3.
The same book is also called the Lamb’s Book of Life because it contains the names of those who have been redeemed by the blood of the Lord Jesus (Revelation 13:8; 21:27).

How can you be sure your name is written in the Book of Life?
Be sure you’re saved. Repent of sin and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior (Philippians 4:3; Revelation 3:5). Once your name is written in the Book of Life, it is never erased (Revelation 3:5; Romans 8:37-39).

No true believer should doubt his eternal security in Christ (John 10:28-30).


The Great White Throne Judgment described in Revelation 20:11-15 is a judgment for unbelievers.
That passage makes it clear that no one at that judgment has his name in the Book of Life (Revelation 20:12-14). Since their names are not in the Book of Life, their fate is sealed, their punishment is sure.

Read more: What is the Book of Life?



Thanks to you, I've also been enlightened by this article from GotQuestions.

I was wrong.

So yes, a true believer can be confident to know that he/she will be listed in the Book of Life. :)
 
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serato said:
If one falls behind then we all fall behind and stay together we shall, as I say one for all and all for one.
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Only in your dreams. :)

With the Three Musketeers? :lol:



While you’re like I’m better than you and I’m elected, you’re rejected, I’m Christian and you’re not.
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It's not saying, "I'm better than you and I'm elected, you're rejected."
It's just a statement of a fact: Anyone who don't believe in Jesus Christ is not a Christian.

That's our CHRISTIAN DUTY - to spread the word about the Saviour, Jesus! In different ways, in different capacities, depending on our God-given abilities or talent.



But Jesus isn’t Christian either, so what does that mean?
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:lol: It means.....of course He wouldn't call Himself a Christian.

A Christian is a believer and follower of Jesus Christ!

CHRIST - IAN.



It means he had a simple message, some advice that matters not what color or race or religion.
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Baloney.



The future will exist only if we get there together, and this is part of the unwavering system and balance that binds the very fabric of the universe. There is no one chosen over the other and this lesson is coming soon and again and again until we get it right.
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What book are you reading?



Life is just a game.
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Which is a contradiction to your own philosophy, right? You contradicted yourself in the same post.


Does the military treat their mission or their purpose as merely a game?
Is the so-called "unwavering balance and system that holds everything together," be considered merely as a game?


In your scenario....if you're not to take life seriously - you'll never get "there!" (Wherever that is).
You know why? It's all a game!

Your "system" that you say holds everything together is a failing system.

Definitely, in that scenario - there will be no "together."

If we all treat life as merely a game....:doh.....how on earth do you think lessons will be learned?



The Ying Yang as seen to me is black and white in perpetual conflict of blurry motion and to train the eye to better see how black sees itself as white and white as black, it’s to walk a mile in the others hue, it’s with understanding that brings about better compassion. And as you can see from the current affairs of all aspects, the world has not learned this lesson .
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:roll:
 
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tosca1 said:
On the contrary. There is only one life to live....and it's not a trial run.
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What if I said you’re simultaneously living more than one life at this very moment within this multi-dimensional, multi-verse reality that with thanks to leaps in quantum science, is becoming more of a mathematical actuality(?) Might this help convince you that life is just a trial run within a game being played with computing precision by your spirit? Don’t roll your eyes just yet as there’s more to say and as said by me, with life being nothing but a game, this is not a contradiction to anything else written within that post and yes I did romanticize with liberal ideology, “the end game”, which in my mind that needs and reads no books since discovering that Heaven is within me, it’s the end game and it’s not exactly the same as the Biblical Judgment Day.

But first stay with me as we should start from the beginning with a truth that if forked and I go right, you left, it’s the crossroads to these questions that determine whether our destination is achieved together or apart: do you believe there is a difference between a spirit and soul? If so, if no, you certainly believe in one and we’ll call this our spirit for immediate purpose of getting us on the same track to then press forward with this question: why did God create our spirit?

So please answer the first question and if you agree to my conclusion to the second question of purpose, the purpose of the spirit is to become a free-willed companion to God as it is now already such but with restrictions that force an inevitability to act within His accordance. It’s like what the law of vibration states with the principle of resonance, that lower vibrations will always rise up to meet the higher vibrations, it’s this very reason why our spirits are able to act so divinely. It’s with their presence so close to the source of all creation, to act as God is all they know so they see no, hear no, speak no and do no evil. It’s this type of companion God wants but only if chosen after experiencing the temptation and effect of all things sin. And with experience always the best teacher, to sin is to become closer to walking Gods path and I could take this philosophy as water to your fire and brimstone you’re-going-to-hell reality and extinguish in an instant with absolute decimation, as I say leave the sinner alone because naughty or nice he’s doing just fine says his spirit to his soul.

It’s the spirit that will be the judge and sort cause and effect of good and bad and with many lessons to learn, one life to live you say(?) God wants your spirit to walk without crutches with all the swagger as He and you think you can stride to His strut with the experience of one measly life? No-no, let’s sort this out: do you know the difference between a spirit and a soul?
 
serato said:
What if I said you’re simultaneously living more than one life at this very moment within this multi-dimensional, multi-verse reality that with thanks to leaps in quantum science, is becoming more of a mathematical actuality(?) Might this help convince you that life is just a trial run within a game being played with computing precision by your spirit? Don’t roll your eyes just yet as there’s more to say and as said by me, with life being nothing but a game, this is not a contradiction to anything else written within that post and yes I did romanticize with liberal ideology, “the end game”, which in my mind that needs and reads no books since discovering that Heaven is within me, it’s the end game and it’s not exactly the same as the Biblical Judgment Day.

But first stay with me as we should start from the beginning with a truth that if forked and I go right, you left, it’s the crossroads to these questions that determine whether our destination is achieved together or apart: do you believe there is a difference between a spirit and soul? If so, if no, you certainly believe in one and we’ll call this our spirit for immediate purpose of getting us on the same track to then press forward with this question: why did God create our spirit?

So please answer the first question and if you agree to my conclusion to the second question of purpose, the purpose of the spirit is to become a free-willed companion to God as it is now already such but with restrictions that force an inevitability to act within His accordance. It’s like what the law of vibration states with the principle of resonance, that lower vibrations will always rise up to meet the higher vibrations, it’s this very reason why our spirits are able to act so divinely. It’s with their presence so close to the source of all creation, to act as God is all they know so they see no, hear no, speak no and do no evil. It’s this type of companion God wants but only if chosen after experiencing the temptation and effect of all things sin. And with experience always the best teacher, to sin is to become closer to walking Gods path and I could take this philosophy as water to your fire and brimstone you’re-going-to-hell reality and extinguish in an instant with absolute decimation, as I say leave the sinner alone because naughty or nice he’s doing just fine says his spirit to his soul.

It’s the spirit that will be the judge and sort cause and effect of good and bad and with many lessons to learn, one life to live you say(?) God wants your spirit to walk without crutches with all the swagger as He and you think you can stride to His strut with the experience of one measly life? No-no, let’s sort this out: do you know the difference between a spirit and a soul?
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This thread is about the Tribulation from the Book of Revelations.....but I'll answer your question:


What if I said you’re simultaneously living more than one life at this very moment within this multi-dimensional, multi-verse reality that with thanks to leaps in quantum science, is becoming more of a mathematical actuality(?) Might this help convince you that life is just a trial run within a game being played with computing precision by your spirit?
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No, that won't convince me at all. I wouldn't even entertain your "WHAT IF" scenario.
 
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tosca1 said:
This thread is about the Tribulation from the Book of Revelations.....but I'll answer your question:




No, that won't convince me at all. I wouldn't even entertain your "WHAT IF" scenario.
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Yes this thread is about Tribulations but how can one discuss a truth when its absolute, as pure as the driven white put through a prism and fractured seven ways, is one way you’ll travel parallel to me but so close so far we can’t see each other. So never mind as I’ll dismiss myself from this discussion but with one last post after this, I’d like to tell you a story if you don’t mind to listen.

As for the “what if” – pretend I never said it and just know this, for every action you make there is a paralleled recourse of infinite possibility. So while you think you’re leading just one life, it’s this one life and every decision spawning a new and new, a new life for the spirit to upload and choose what right and wrong so one day down the road he’ll be able to sing the same song as our Creator.

And you did not answer the most important question that will affect all future outlooks to literally everything: Do you know the difference between the spirit and soul and if so or no, do you know why God created our spirits?

Don’t bother answering if this is too troubling but if you don’t mind, this weekend most likely tomorrow, I’d like to tell you just one story and then I’ll leave it with you to do as you wish.
 
serato said:
I'd rather know him as I know him to be The Truth. And when I asked for truth I was taken by the hand and lead directly to this Truth.
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Jesus is the Truth (John 14:6).
 
Logicman said:
Jesus is the Truth (John 14:6).
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No doubt whatsoever. The Truth The Truth, yes, Jesus is The Truth. Have you ever seen The Truth and have IT reach out to you? Have you ever felt its exhilaration most inescapable in a willingness to share its description?
 
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