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Are these people really Christians?

SMTA said:
You have just described yourself.
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No, I just described you. Did you even bother to check and see if I was right or not, that there ARE INDEED ordained ministers in the Anglican Church who are not Priests? No.
 
it's just me said:
No, I just described you. Did you even bother to check and see if I was right or not, that there ARE INDEED ordained ministers in the Anglican Church who are not Priests? No.
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You don't read and comprehend well, do you?
 
RAMOSS said:
When it comes to being a minister, you can do that online , for free.
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Well, there you go.

One gets what one pays for, eh?
 
SMTA said:
Nice call out - because on the Interwebz, everyone is a minister, doctor, rocket scientist, Phd, etc.
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And there is no shortage of trolls who will always claim you are not who you say you are. So what?
 
cpwill said:
Because you don't know that Anglicans don't have ordained ministers - they have Priests?
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All I know is that there are small enclaves of self-described "Anglicans" and "Anglo-Catholics" and that most of those who are part of the "Anglican Communion" call themselves "Episcopalians." When you're talking about Episcopalians, they're either "high-church" or "low-church," and low-church parishes do have clergy who call themselves "ministers" rather than "priests," particularly the ones with female clergy.
 
nota bene said:
All I know is that there are small enclaves of self-described "Anglicans" and "Anglo-Catholics" and that most of those who are part of the "Anglican Communion" call themselves "Episcopalians." When you're talking about Episcopalians, they're either "high-church" or "low-church," and low-church parishes do have clergy who call themselves "ministers" rather than "priests," particularly the ones with female clergy.
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"Minister" is a generic term used throughout the BCP to designate the person conducting the ritual or sacrament. In our churches it could be a Deacon, Priest, or Bishop. In low church Episcopalian services it could even be a layman.
 
Y'know, it looks like you try to insult people into respecting you. I have serious doubts that will work.

I presume you've used the same tactic on a variety of web forums, with a variety of results. So, I'm going to suggest a different tactic.

Next time someone challenges you, try to take the moral high ground. Don't attack, don't talk down to people, don't respond in kind. Just, y'know... Turn the other cheek. Be nice.
 
Visbek said:
Y'know, it looks like you try to insult people into respecting you. I have serious doubts that will work.

I presume you've used the same tactic on a variety of web forums, with a variety of results. So, I'm going to suggest a different tactic.

Next time someone challenges you, try to take the moral high ground. Don't attack, don't talk down to people, don't respond in kind. Just, y'know... Turn the other cheek. Be nice.
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And he wonders why his posts 'generate hatred'.

The common thread is him.
 
Visbek said:
Y'know, it looks like you try to insult people into respecting you. I have serious doubts that will work.

I presume you've used the same tactic on a variety of web forums, with a variety of results. So, I'm going to suggest a different tactic.

Next time someone challenges you, try to take the moral high ground. Don't attack, don't talk down to people, don't respond in kind. Just, y'know... Turn the other cheek. Be nice.
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I'll follow your example from now on.
 
it's just me said:
"Minister" is a generic term used throughout the BCP to designate the person conducting the ritual or sacrament. In our churches it could be a Deacon, Priest, or Bishop. In low church Episcopalian services it could even be a layman.
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I'm not familiar with deacons in the Episcopal church, only Vestry members. Learn something knew every day. Yes, "minister" is a term used in the Book of Common Prayer. But the BCP does use the term "priest": The Ordination of a Priest
 
John S said:
I don't know what your opinions are so I can't comment on them but I will say this.
Religious forums are run by and for conservatives. When you deviate too far from what they allow, they will "punish" you.
Try explaining that conservatives aren't really Christians when Jesus Christ was/is a liberal and see how far you get.
Try explaining that the "being saved" doctrine is blasphemous and see how far you get.
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Interesting. That has not been my experience at all. Religious forums on every political messageboard I have been a part of were little more than atheists taunting religious people 24/7 and the moderators letting them do that because "atheism is a valid religious belief" or some similar excuse.
 
Declan said:
Interesting. That has not been my experience at all. Religious forums on every political messageboard I have been a part of were little more than atheists taunting religious people 24/7 and the moderators letting them do that because "atheism is a valid religious belief" or some similar excuse.
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Or the religious zealots telling everyone else that they are wrong and he/she is right.

It reeks of hypocrisy and judgement.
 
SMTA said:
Or the religious zealots telling everyone else that they are wrong and he/she is right.

It reeks of hypocrisy and judgement.
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Doesn't matter what it reeks of. Religious forums should be for people to debate/discuss religion itself and not for people to taunt the religious. Otherwise, I see no point having them.
 
nota bene said:
I'm not familiar with deacons in the Episcopal church, only Vestry members. Learn something knew every day. Yes, "minister" is a term used in the Book of Common Prayer. But the BCP does use the term "priest": The Ordination of a Priest
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Deacons don't stay Deacons for long, they are usually Priested after a year or so. I believe the RCC started the tradition of permanent Deacon because traditionally Deacons are allowed to be married and Priests are not. This allows married men entering the ministry to serve in the ordained ministry, although married Anglican priests have incardinated into the RCC and become Priests as well.

The BCP uses "Priest" during the Eucharistic celebration:

At the Communion time the Holy Table shall have upon it a fair white linen cloth, and the Priest, standing reverently before the Holy Table, shall say the Lord’s Prayer and the Collect following, the people kneeling; but the Lord’s Prayer may be omitted at the discretion of the Priest.
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However, Deacons perform the Eucharistic celebration without blessing the elements (we use elements consecrated by the Bishop) and with certain prayers omitted. This is called the "Deacon's Mass" and is done in both the Episcopal and continuing Anglican Churches, as well as the RCC, where in certain places there aren't enough Priests to go around.

During Morning and Evening Prayer the BCP calls the president "the Minister":

The Minister shall begin the Morning Prayer by reading one or more of the following Sentences of Scripture.
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In this case, the "minister" could be any one of the ordained ministry or a lay reader, trained for this service.
 
Declan said:
Doesn't matter what it reeks of. Religious forums should be for people to debate/discuss religion itself and not for people to taunt the religious. Otherwise, I see no point having them.
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Some people come to a "Religion" forum and act surprised and offended that there are religious people there.
 
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