Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.

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WCH said:

Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers And Evil People | Walid ShoebatWalid Shoebat

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.
I never accepted the modern perception of Christianity, as a sort of peace loving religion. Christ Himself said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

Christ is “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.” (Psalm 24:8)

The Divine Law strikes, and the heretics scatter, like wolves without a head. Now is the hour of darkness, now is the hour of the savages and their leader the wicked one, “given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” (Revelation 13:7)

But with the hour of persecution, comes the time for the shepherds who, worshiping the Eternal Shepherd, strikes the lion and the bear to rescue one sheep, and then slays the mighty hunter who defies “the armies of the living God” (1 Samuel 17:26).

The Two Swords, the Spiritual and the Temporal, lie in the hands of the Church, and yet they remaine unused, rusted and ignored by indifferent hearts. These are the Swords of the Church Militant, who rises, confronts, and destroys the bastions of darkness that advance against the Kingdom of Heaven.

When the Holy Sepulchre and holy places of pilgrimage were tainted and desecrated by the Muslim heathen, tell me, did Christians stay still, and say amongst themselves, “We must accept that Christian lands are now belong under the law of Islam. We as Christians should condemn what they are doing, but we must not wish harm on anyone or be militant, because we are under the New Covenant, and Christ never declared war on anyone”?

Never.


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In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.

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StillBallin75 said:

Yeah I fail to see where the two are mutually exclusive.

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WCH said:

Jesus Christ Did Not Believe In Tolerance And Peace, But The Punishment Of Evil Doers And Evil People | Walid ShoebatWalid Shoebat

Jesus Christ did not believe in tolerance and peace, but the punishment of evil doers and evil people.
I never accepted the modern perception of Christianity, as a sort of peace loving religion. Christ Himself said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

Christ is “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.” (Psalm 24:8)

The Divine Law strikes, and the heretics scatter, like wolves without a head. Now is the hour of darkness, now is the hour of the savages and their leader the wicked one, “given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” (Revelation 13:7)

But with the hour of persecution, comes the time for the shepherds who, worshiping the Eternal Shepherd, strikes the lion and the bear to rescue one sheep, and then slays the mighty hunter who defies “the armies of the living God” (1 Samuel 17:26).

The Two Swords, the Spiritual and the Temporal, lie in the hands of the Church, and yet they remaine unused, rusted and ignored by indifferent hearts. These are the Swords of the Church Militant, who rises, confronts, and destroys the bastions of darkness that advance against the Kingdom of Heaven.

When the Holy Sepulchre and holy places of pilgrimage were tainted and desecrated by the Muslim heathen, tell me, did Christians stay still, and say amongst themselves, “We must accept that Christian lands are now belong under the law of Islam. We as Christians should condemn what they are doing, but we must not wish harm on anyone or be militant, because we are under the New Covenant, and Christ never declared war on anyone”?

Never.


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In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.

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Beaudreaux said:

Hmmmm... Not the Bible I read. Jesus teachings, not those interpreted by Peter or any of the others, were ALL about tolerance and peace... and forgiveness, and love; let he who is without sin cast the first stone... just as an example - lots of stones are getting thrown these days from people that must think they're without sin. Just my opinion, which is what most religions boil down to anyway.

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Beaudreaux said:

They're not, but, they are differentiated by Jesus as to who is responsible for which part. Jesus taught peace, love, tolerance and forgiveness for mankind to mankind. He also taught that it was not for us to judge lest we be judged, and that God was the only one that was to do the judging - God alone - there seems to be a lot of God's on Earth nowadays doing a lot of judging of others. He also said to obey the law - render unto Caesar...

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Beaudreaux said:

Hmmmm... Not the Bible I read. Jesus teachings, not those interpreted by Peter or any of the others, were ALL about tolerance and peace... and forgiveness, and love; let he who is without sin cast the first stone... just as an example - lots of stones are getting thrown these days from people that must think they're without sin. Just my opinion, which is what most religions boil down to anyway.

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WCH said:

He's coming back.

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WCH said:

We didn't learn and he's coming back to with a vengeance.

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Beaudreaux said:

That's what I believe as well. I also believe he's gonna look around at some people and say "You did what in my name?"

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Logicman said:

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Beaudreaux said:

He may be vengeful, but I tend to think it may be toward those that won't be expecting it and think they're a shoe-in.

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WCH said:

We didn't learn and he's coming back to with a vengeance.

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Beaudreaux said:

They're not, but, they are differentiated by Jesus as to who is responsible for which part. Jesus taught peace, love, tolerance and forgiveness for mankind to mankind. He also taught that it was not for us to judge lest we be judged, and that God was the only one that was to do the judging - God alone - there seems to be a lot of God's on Earth nowadays doing a lot of judging of others. He also said to obey the law - render unto Caesar...

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AlbqOwl said:

The very little information that we have about Jesus' interaction with the people made a point to illustrate that he was tolerant of the despised tax collector which most people shunned, calling one to be his closest disciple and going to the home of another wealthy individual. He was tolerant of the Samaritan, an inferior and disgusting people in the eyes of the Pharisees. He went out of his way to speak privately with a woman, something that just wasn't usually done in that culture, and he praised the extravagance of Mary and the offering of the widow when she gave her mite, and he loved the little children.

He admonished his hearers to do good to those who spitefully treated them, to forgive, and to show compassion and not be hypocrites. He demonstrated that we are to judge the actions of those who knowingly do wrong or evil, but to not judge those who unknowingly do wrong or evil. And he taught the worth of the poor, that neither the rich or the poor are to be despised due to their status in life, and that it is God's prerogative to judge the motives or heart of another and we should not presume to do so. And that even the thief on the cross, probably deservedly so, was of worth and forgiven.

Seems pretty tolerant to me.

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WCH said:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. –Matthew 10:34

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35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

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Beaudreaux said:

Yup, he lost his temper... once. How about all the other times when he was washing feet, or hanging out with lepers (the modern day gays) or telling folks to turn the other cheek? If he was going around chasing people with a whip all the time, I seriously doubt that Christianity would have caught on like it did... although over our history of our religion, we've done some pretty awful stuff in his name, and some modern day versions aren't immune to that either.

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Beaudreaux said:

Hmmmm... Not the Bible I read. Jesus teachings, not those interpreted by Peter or any of the others, were ALL about tolerance and peace... and forgiveness, and love; let he who is without sin cast the first stone... just as an example - lots of stones are getting thrown these days from people that must think they're without sin. Just my opinion, which is what most religions boil down to anyway.

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WCH said:

Snip In an age where Christianity is under siege and many of it's principles ignored, now should be the time to fight back.

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logicman said:

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Sababa said:

jesus was the original member of ows

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brothern said:

There's two Biblical perspectives. You have the OT's 'An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth' and the NT's 'Let he who is without sin ...' Both are valid Biblical perspectives. Radical love vs. extreme justice. Of course neither OT or the NT is strictly of the same perspective. You can find radical love passages in the OT and extreme justice passages in the NT.

In the end, I think it's pointless to argue which Jesus endorses. God as a non-communicative entity, who therefore will always agree with whichever Christian has his or her mouth open at the moment. It's no surprise that the Bible has always been open for interpretation. We do, after all, have countless Christian denominations Westboro Baptist Church to the Quakers. WCH and Logicman are always going to find a punitive and war Christ; and you're always going to find a loving and peaceful Christ.

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Beaudreaux said:

let he who is without sin cast the first stone... just as an example

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Biblical scholars are nearly all agreed that the Story of the Adulteress (also known as the Pericope Adulterae or the Pericope de Adultera) usually printed in Bibles as John 7:53-8:11 is a later addition to the Gospel.

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Beaudreaux said:

THe also taught that it was not for us to judge lest we be judged, and that God was the only one that was to do the judging - God alone - there seems to be a lot of God's on Earth nowadays doing a lot of judging of others.

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