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Stauros--an upright pole or stake

"To worship Christ in any form cannot be wrong ... " (WT, 3-1880, 83).
"It is unscriptural for worshippers of the living and true God to render worship to the Son of God, Jesus Christ" (WT, 11-1-1964, 671).

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The previous incorrect predictions don't matter?


They only had error filled trinity translations to go by back then. They have fixed that--THe nwt is in harmony with Jesus' truths--trinity translations have caused nothing but a disunified mass of confusion-1 Corinthians 1:10)
 
They only had error filled trinity translations to go by back then. They have fixed that--THe nwt is in harmony with Jesus' truths--trinity translations have caused nothing but a disunified mass of confusion-1 Corinthians 1:10)

How do you know that this translation is correct? By what authority?
 
How do you know that this translation is correct? By what authority?


Its in harmony with the teachings of Jesus. I showed 4 errors made by trinity translators, subtle errors to mislead. The errors are not in harmony with the rest of Gods word.
 
The greek word stauros= an upright pole or stake--- except in trinity translations-cross is used....
Crucifixion was a common punishment at the time. There's no real reason to doubt that the historical Jesus was crucified.

There are many potential issues with translation, but that's not one of them.
 
Crucifixion was a common punishment at the time. There's no real reason to doubt that the historical Jesus was crucified.

There are many potential issues with translation, but that's not one of them.

Yes the cross--a pagan false religion symbol as well as false gods were represented by various forms of the cross--even the swastika is a form of a cross. The table of demons---Gods word teaches---One cannot partake of the table of God and of the table of demons. Which means since the cross is a pagan symbol--Jesus and his followers would have 0 to do with it--especially as the front of his religion---not religionssssssssssssssssssssssssss. His teachers surely warn the flocks what is and isn't off the table of demons---unfortunately many pleasurable things begin on that table and too many partake of both to no avail to them. Yet their teachers tell them they are saved.
 
Its in harmony with the teachings of Jesus. I showed 4 errors made by trinity translators, subtle errors to mislead. The errors are not in harmony with the rest of Gods word.

Then here are some more problems with your supposed correct translation:

Catholic Answers said:
To undermine the divinity of Christ in John 1:1, the NWT reads, " . . . the word was a god." Non-JW Greek scholars call this "a shocking mistranslation," "incorrect," "monstrous," and "evidence of abysmal ignorance of the basic tenets of Greek grammar." Furthermore, Col. 1:15-17 has been changed to "... by means of him all [other] things were created." If the text were left as the original Greek reads, it would clearly state that Jesus created all things. However, the WTS cannot afford to say that anyone but Jehovah created all things, so it inserted the word "other" four times into the text.

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Yes the cross--a pagan false religion symbol....
Crucifixion was a punishment, not a religious act. The cross wasn't a religious symbol, it was a warning not to violate Roman law.


even the swastika is a form of a cross.
The Swastika is a Hindu symbol of peace, which the Nazis corrupted. What's your point?


The table of demons---Gods word teaches---One cannot partake of the table of God....
You're babbling.

The historical figure of Jesus crossed the Romans, by disrupting Passover. They nailed him to a cross and left him to die, just like all the other thieves and dissidents. Again, even with as little reliable information as we have about Jesus, there is very little reason to doubt he was crucified.
 
Crucifixion was a punishment, not a religious act. The cross wasn't a religious symbol, it was a warning not to violate Roman law.



The Swastika is a Hindu symbol of peace, which the Nazis corrupted. What's your point?



You're babbling.

The historical figure of Jesus crossed the Romans, by disrupting Passover. They nailed him to a cross and left him to die, just like all the other thieves and dissidents. Again, even with as little reliable information as we have about Jesus, there is very little reason to doubt he was crucified.


The point is-- the cross is a pagan symbol off the table of demons--Jesus has 0 to do with it, especially would never let it front his religion. A roman death implement---but the fact remains---0 proof of what Jesus died on except the greek word stauros.
 
For one thing, Jesus didn't really have "his" religion. He was a Jew, with a philosophy that was a bit different from the religion he was raised with. I doubt he knew that Christianity would be a major religion today. As for the pagan issue, the early Christian church let the pagans keep some of their own religious symbols and holidays in order to help convert them, without putting up with too much of a fight.

What do you mean you doubted he knew?

of course he knew how big Christianity would be in fact that was part of the Great Commission. He told Peter that he would be the rock of which he would build his church.
 
The point is-- the cross is a pagan symbol off the table of demons--Jesus has 0 to do with it, especially would never let it front his religion. A roman death implement---but the fact remains---0 proof of what Jesus died on except the greek word stauros.

crucifixtion was the modern form of capital punishment in those days and even hundreds of years before. To the people using it had little to do with what you say and more to do with a message.

if you break the law and step out of line this is what is going to happen to you and probably your family as well.

Did Jesus really exist? Is there any historical evidence of Jesus Christ?

there is plenty of evidence.
 
Was Jesus PHYSICALLY RESURRECTED?

Jesus was raised in incorruption--spirit.--He could appear as mortal at will--he did it in at minimum two different bodies it seems. When first seen outside tomb--he was not recognized( not original body)---He appeared behind a locked door--spirit---he showed Thomas his original body because Thomas was confused.
 
Jesus was raised in incorruption--spirit.--He could appear as mortal at will--he did it in at minimum two different bodies it seems. When first seen outside tomb--he was not recognized( not original body)---He appeared behind a locked door--spirit---he showed Thomas his original body because Thomas was confused.

Well, if Jesus was just raised spiritually, then how did Mary and the disciples know he was raised up?

By the way, Jesus prophesied about his resurrection and said he would raise himself from the dead. Only God can do that.

Jesus said, when asked for a sign, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up . . . but he spoke of the temple of his body" (John 2:19, 21).

Obviously, Jesus prophesied that he would raise up his PHYSICAL body.
 
Well, if Jesus was just raised spiritually, then how did Mary and the disciples know he was raised up?

By the way, Jesus prophesied about his resurrection and said he would raise himself from the dead. Only God can do that.

Jesus said, when asked for a sign, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up . . . but he spoke of the temple of his body" (John 2:19, 21).

Obviously, Jesus prophesied that he would raise up his PHYSICAL body.

I have to agree because later Thomas said he would only believe if he could see his hand and put his finger in his side.
Which is how Thomas realized his mistake.
 
The point is-- the cross is a pagan symbol off the table of demons...
Whatever dude

I mean, are you really suggesting that Jesus chose his method of execution? That doesn't make any sense. He certainly didn't tell the Romans how to execute him, nor did the Romans offer convicted criminals a choice.


A roman death implement---but the fact remains---0 proof of what Jesus died on except the greek word stauros.
That, and the overwhelming plausibility that he was executed via a very common method of the time.

Give it up, dude. There is very little reason to doubt it, and citing bizarre claims about "tables of demons" doesn't change anything.
 
Well, if Jesus was just raised spiritually, then how did Mary and the disciples know he was raised up?

By the way, Jesus prophesied about his resurrection and said he would raise himself from the dead. Only God can do that.

Jesus said, when asked for a sign, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up . . . but he spoke of the temple of his body" (John 2:19, 21).

Obviously, Jesus prophesied that he would raise up his PHYSICAL body.

Gods word teaches Jesus was raised in incorruption( spirit) -- flesh is corrupt.
 
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Whatever dude

I mean, are you really suggesting that Jesus chose his method of execution? That doesn't make any sense. He certainly didn't tell the Romans how to execute him, nor did the Romans offer convicted criminals a choice.



That, and the overwhelming plausibility that he was executed via a very common method of the time.

Give it up, dude. There is very little reason to doubt it, and citing bizarre claims about "tables of demons" doesn't change anything.


1 Corinthians 10:21----

I didn't say Jesus chose how he died-- I said there is 0 proof of how Jesus died except the word stauros( upright pole or stake.) found in the bible.
 
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