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Issues with Joseph Smith and the Mormon Church

laska said:
Phattonez, God bless you man, we are just going to have to agree to disagree.
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I just hope that you were able to approach this with sincerity and with the knowledge that I'm not trying to show you up or make you look stupid. I'm really just getting at the facts. God bless.
 
phattonez said:
You can't take every form, you only ever take 1 form.



A being of pure actuality doesn't demand an explanation because it is not contingent.
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you just cant take them all in the same place hence multi verse

and the god is still contingent unless maybe it makes the multi verse but its not required for one
 
blarg said:
you just cant take them all in the same place hence multi verse

and the god is still contingent unless maybe it makes the multi verse but its not required for one
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Your argument is that we take all forms in many places? This is a flat-out denial of our existence. It's absurd.
 
phattonez said:
Your argument is that we take all forms in many places? This is a flat-out denial of our existence. It's absurd.
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its not a denial of our existence its an idea of all possible existences

are existence would be included in it of course

where do you get denial from?
 
blarg said:
its not a denial of our existence its an idea of all possible existences

are existence would be included in it of course

where do you get denial from?
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Then we exist, but our matter is in different forms in other universes? You realize that this doesn't avoid the problem of potency and actuality.
 
phattonez said:
Then we exist, but our matter is in different forms in other universes? You realize that this doesn't avoid the problem of potency and actuality.
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nope different matter is in the other forms and the individual universes exists all at one to express all the possible forms go beyond time which you might need to do since god or no god the universe seems to have a beginning cause and effect are a bit miss leading everything always existed every time always exists and cause and effect is les like a causes b and more like your arm is connected to your hand
 
blarg said:
nope different matter is in the other forms and the individual universes exists all at one to express all the possible forms go beyond time which you might need to do since god or no god the universe seems to have a beginning cause and effect are a bit miss leading everything always existed every time always exists and cause and effect is les like a causes b and more like your arm is connected to your hand
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You actually made this all one sentence and expected me to understand it?
 
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