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Does God Punish Us With Weather Related Disasters?

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Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?

There's no way, if there is a god which I don't believe, he's in anyway involved in anyone's life or weather. A couple days ago I posted about a story where a boy falling out a window was saved by a couple who happened to be passing by with a box spring mattress. Yesterday the mother of the boy said it had to be "an act of god." My initial thought was, "really, so god loves you more than Eric Clapton, more than the family of the women, children, or men who've been killed by hit and runs in LA in the past three weeks..."

You can't blame god for bad, nor credit him with good without slandering him one way or another. Even if giving him credit for good, then he's slandered because of the selectiveness of it. If he's responsible for bad weather he's guilty of punishing a boatload of innocent people apparently for either no reason or as collateral damage. Both present him as a complete jerk and a-hole.
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?


I would guess God has no more to do with weather and all that you mention than Man does.
 
1. I don't know.


2. Define innocent.
 
Isis can control the weather. She gets pissed when we pay more attention to Allah and Jesus.
 
Recent bad weather in the east, southeast, northeast, and northwest is being controlled by realtors in the southwestern states....they are gearing up for a massive influx of buyers from the cold states.
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?

If there is a God, do you think all he has to do is watch how we're doing? Judge us? Punish us? Reward us? He's got a whole universe, after all. No, I don't think God is vindictive.
 
#1) Isn't the murderous, vengeful, angry god the one from the Old Testament? Which the majority of American christians tend to ignore with prejudice.

#2) "Innocent" would surely apply to children, infants, animals, and the like

#3) When there's a region like "tornado ally", where killer storms are frequent enough for everyone to know those places are going to be hit, does that mean the people that live there are making god far more angry than the people that live in other places? Are the people in Oklahoma and Missouri that much worse than the people in Montana or Idaho? Shouldn't Nevada get savaged far more often than Kansas?


I mean, if god really wanted to smite a group of humans to make a point, why cloak it in something like a "natural disaster"? Why not do it in such a way as it leaves no questions about what or why it happened?
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

If there is a God who had the power to speak the entire universe into existence from nothing, wouldn't he also have the power to destroy it?

Sure why not? His ball, his game.
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?

I don't believe he does. If he does, I am not sure he or she is a God I would care very much for in the end.
 
If there is a God who had the power to speak the entire universe into existence from nothing, wouldn't he also have the power to destroy it?

Sure why not? His ball, his game.

So you're saying this god is somewhat equivalent to a child?

Temper tantrums and stomping on ants every now and again just for entertainment?
 
So you're saying this god is somewhat equivalent to a child?

Temper tantrums and stomping on ants every now and again just for entertainment?

No, I was just commenting on the theory behind the theology, you are the one attributing it to a temper tantrum. The concept of justice would include punishment as well as reward wouldn't it?
 
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Reward and punishment. Sounds quite manipulative.

There's far easier ways to "control" people's actions and beliefs isn't there?

Do people honestly think god is sitting up on his throne and occasionally launching a killer storm in some kind of lame, non-creative way of sending a message?

The message being that we're not quite following the "rules" properly?


That's kinda like me trying to stop my teenager from sneaking behind my back and stealing my beer by letting a poisonous spider loose in his room at night while he's sleeping. He may or may not make a connection over time. He may or may not die from spider bite. It might be his sister stealing my beer, but oh well. The point is I don't like a certain behavior, and rather than address it head on, I'll do some drastic stuff and just hope they get the message one day before it's too late.
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?

1. Every human is affected by original sin, and so is not "innocent" in the eyes of God.

Original sin caused the world to become disordered, and thus remotely caused all natural disasters. God actively consents to the laws of nature governing such things, although it is not necessary that he actively consent to each specific thing (which of course does not prevent him from actively willing a specific thing, such as when he destroyed Sodom or when he caused Peter to be able to walk on water).
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?

Does not the rain fall on the just and unjust alike?
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?

What some people forget is that God destroyed the earth with a flood and then promised to knock it off after that.

The Old Testament God was persnickety.
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?
Pure nonsense...even for a non-atheist.
 
Does not the rain fall on the just and unjust alike?

It does, which suggests the weather is not controlled as a punishment or reward for specific behaviors.

Was Germany hit with unrelenting natural disasters late 1930's and early 1940's?
 
Does not the rain fall on the just and unjust alike?

The rain it falleth on the just, as well as on the unjust fella,

buy it mostly falleth on the just. The unjust has stolen his umbrella.
 
Does the all loving, all caring, Christian God of the New Testament punish "innocent" humans for their sins by unleashing tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters on the masses?

Was the Tsunami that devastated Japan created and "sent" by God?

What about the Tsunami of 2004 that crushed people all around the Indian ocean? God's creation?

Hurricane Sandy?

Does God control the weather as a tool to punish, or reward the flocks?

Pure horse****!
 
I laugh at people claiming what god does or does not do when they don't know what is going on in the room adjacent to their own.
 
If there is a God, do you think all he has to do is watch how we're doing? Judge us? Punish us? Reward us? He's got a whole universe, after all. No, I don't think God is vindictive.

An omnipotent and omniscient God can easily do all of those. He is merciful, but He is just, and will exact retribution.
 
Striking a large area in order to punish a few people would be astoundingly cruel and sadistic, and doing so in order to communicate to everyone else would be hugely inefficient. Suppose a natural disaster really were a punishment for some group of people in some society doing something wrong. How would we possibly know what they were doing wrong? Would god expect us to do an in-depth investigation of each of the affected people? Find out what their indiscretions were? Would we know for sure that it was something common among them? Would we be able to determine what singular transgression it was related to? It's an incredibly clumsy way to tell people something.
 
Obviously, this God thingy uses weather to punish it's little playtoys. It just likes the dramatic once in awhile, because it gets totally bored with heart attacks and seldom has the patience for Cancer or killing folk one by one.


You guys should see it's screening room.
 
Humans began the long and difficult process of substituting scientific inquiry for attributing to god or the gods any phenomena they did not understand only about a half millennium or so ago.

Apparently, the process is not yet finished.
 
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