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If I was perfect, I could be like this woman

She Looked Into The Eyes Of Her Son’s Killer. And You Won’t Believe What She Said.



But I'm far from where this woman is. If she were an inch from Jesus, I'm be 10 feet.


Their is a fine line between forgiving and accepting, if it was an accident ,unavoidable or fear of the moment then this is what Jesus would do.

But if it was intentional then she is too kind hearted for her own good.

I have a complected and personal story on why I feel this way, all I will say is a person with Borderline Personality Disorder Gets away with a lot do to people being too forgiving.
 
She Looked Into The Eyes Of Her Son’s Killer. And You Won’t Believe What She Said.



But I'm far from where this woman is. If she were an inch from Jesus, I'm be 10 feet.




She will be an hour in Heaven before the Devil hears that she's dead. (Old Irish saying).

Been through something sort of like this. Best-friend-like-a-brother was murdered... took me ten years to forgive them enough to let go of my hate and desire for revenge. Still doesn't mean I didn't feel they had a price to pay for what they did though.
 
I'm callous: I'd never forgive someone who dared murder one of my children.
Sorry, I won't give vindication where none is earned. Go save a million dying children or cure cancer or something.
 
I'm callous: I'd never forgive someone who dared murder one of my children.
Sorry, I won't give vindication where none is earned. Go save a million dying children or cure cancer or something.

I admit, it's extremely tough to find that kind of strength. Grace through Jesus is grace unearned, but given freely. The Bible says that our righteousness is as a filthy rag, so through God's gift of Jesus we are made worthy.
 
I admit, it's extremely tough to find that kind of strength. Grace through Jesus is grace unearned, but given freely. The Bible says that our righteousness is as a filthy rag, so through God's gift of Jesus we are made worthy.

I don't cleave to notions of god and what not, so I don't see it as strength but insult and stupidity.
 
I don't cleave to notions of god and what not, so I don't see it as strength but insult and stupidity.

Maybe you shouldn't be here then. This forum is for people who have faith, and want to discuss it. What's the point in coming here and saying you don't believe in God?
 
Another inspiring story on forgiveness.


B.C. missionary forgiving after Kenya rape, attack

Eloise Bergen was taking a hot bath Wednesday in her Kenyan home when she looked up to see five men, each clutching machetes and clubs in their hands.

After the men were done, they punched Eloise in her private parts, choked her three times and cut her with their machetes. Her jaw was broken. She needed 35 stitches to close the cuts on her face.

Seven people -- five men and two women -- have been arrested for the brutal attacks on the Bergens. Two of the men taken into custody have been identified as the Canadians' security guards, hired in the last three weeks to protect the couple at night.

Eloise and John, 70, had recently moved into their own house on a gated farm in Kenya, where they grow food for local children. They were working with the non-profit organization Hope for the Nations, based in Kelowna, B.C.
B.C. missionary forgiving after Kenya rape, attack

The last time I heard, the couple went back to Africa.
 
Maybe you shouldn't be here then. This forum is for people who have faith, and want to discuss it. What's the point in coming here and saying you don't believe in God?

You're right - I wasn't paying attention to the forum this was posted in.
 
Their is a fine line between forgiving and accepting, if it was an accident ,unavoidable or fear of the moment then this is what Jesus would do.

But if it was intentional then she is too kind hearted for her own good.

I have a complected and personal story on why I feel this way, all I will say is a person with Borderline Personality Disorder Gets away with a lot do to people being too forgiving.

I am sorry for your personal loss, but, Jesus would have forgiven him anyway. "Lord forgive them, for they know not what they do".
 
I'm callous: I'd never forgive someone who dared murder one of my children.
Sorry, I won't give vindication where none is earned. Go save a million dying children or cure cancer or something.

That seems like a normal reaction. I don't think I could either.
 
Wow. That's amazing. If I was allowed to get that close to someone who murdered my child I highly doubt that would be how I would respond.

I think my initial reaction would be one of furious anger. As time went on, and if I thought I could see just a small gleam of potential goodness in his eyes, or in his manner, I could probably forgive him, but it would takes years and lots of personal soul-searching on my part.

He is virtually still a kid himself. It's tragic.
 
I have to admit, I was waiting for the smack... course, I just watched the video instead of reading the link, but I was waiting for it...:beat
 
I think my initial reaction would be one of furious anger. As time went on, and if I thought I could see just a small gleam of potential goodness in his eyes, or in his manner, I could probably forgive him, but it would takes years and lots of personal soul-searching on my part.

He is virtually still a kid himself. It's tragic.

I know. It's sad. I think how the woman reacted was brave and incredibly forgiving. I don't think I'm good enough a person at this point in my life to react like that.

I don't think any amount of time could get me to the place that woman was at in approaching him and telling him that she was praying for him and his family.
 
It's obvious this woman is in shock and senile. Chalk one up for the bad guys.
 
Her message is amazing! Here is the translation of the lady's message to her child's killer.


"Look at me. You are pardoned in the name of Jesus. I am a Christian, and I am pardoning you; and I will continue to pray for you, Alisson. I will never visit you where you are going because I don’t have the courage, but I will be praying. You will find the same God that I serve, and you will serve him too. I have no hate towards you, Alisson, and I will pray for you every day.

“I waited this whole year to say this, since I learned Daniel was dead and that it was [you]. I didn’t know you yet but I said God, take care of him. And today I am sad with you, because you killed someone else- look at me- you didn’t give me the opportunity to look into my son’s eyes before he died, because you killed him before I could see him. And you know Daniel wasn’t a bad kid;
if you knew how good he was, hardworking… But now I’m here, and I will continue praying for you.

“God, go with Alisson wherever he may go, and do not leave him for a second. Touch his soul like you have touched mine. Comfort his mother because she will be suffering like me. And I thank you for everything, in the name of Jesus. Amen.”

She Looked Into The Eyes Of Her Son’s Killer. And You Won’t Believe What She Said.




Chances are her words will resonate when this young man serves his time in prison - he'll have all the time in the world to think.

It is a wonderful example of Christianity, which at the same time glorifies and shows utmost trust and faith in God.
 
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