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Are Christians the Most Persecuted Religion?

Yeah, the Romans and Soviets never had the blood of Christians on their hands. You are utterly ignorant of the history of Christianity.

Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Romans and Soviets are gone. Frankly, the Soviets weren't very nice to anybody, it's not like they went out of their way to get Christians. As far as the Romans go, they also did more to spread Christianity after Constantine's conversion than almost anybody else.
 
The Romans and Soviets are gone. Frankly, the Soviets weren't very nice to anybody, it's not like they went out of their way to get Christians. As far as the Romans go, they also did more to spread Christianity after Constantine's conversion than almost anybody else.

And your theory is that all the christians got murdered while the jews remained unscathed? I think it's safe to say few mass murdering tyrants in history have hated the christians more than the jews.

It is undeniable that Judaism has suffered more persecution than any religion in history. Their entire history is persecution, non-stop.

^ yes the Soviets wanted the elimination of all religious ideologies, not just Christians. Fact is, people like to maim and kill those who threaten their belief system- Atheists included. It's about control.
 
I don't see anything in that link that shows you're more persecuted than the jews. If you'd like to explain when 6 million of you were murdered within a few years, I'd like to hear it.

And your theory is that all the christians got murdered while the jews remained unscathed? I think it's safe to say few mass murdering tyrants in history have hated the christians more than the jews.

It is undeniable that Judaism has suffered more persecution than any religion in history. Their entire history is persecution, non-stop.

And this is what you call changing the goal posts.

And to respond to your last point, please tell me who the first persecutors of Christianity were. I'm dying to hear you try to wiggle out of this one.
 
And this is what you call changing the goal posts.

And to respond to your last point, please tell me who the first persecutors of Christianity were. I'm dying to hear you try to wiggle out of this one.

By the time you guys broke off and created your own religion, the jews had been harassed for thousands of years. You're an infant religion that apparently whines like one as well.
 
And let's not act as if it ended with Rome and the USSR:

[FONT=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif]You won't hear how the Jews allied themselves with the Persians in attacking Palestine in A.D. 614 -- and how they reveled in slaughtering the Christians there and razing their churches, including the one built over Christ's Tomb. According to Monk Strategius of Mar Saba (Antiochus Strategos), Jews purchased Christian slaves from the Persians for the sole purpose of slaughtering them "just as one might buy cattle to slaughter." [SUP]3[/SUP]

You won't hear how Jews rose to high levels in medieval Spanish society by falsely claiming to have converted to the Holy Faith, how many became priests, rose to prominence in the Church, and then proceeded to Judaize that country's Catholics. You won't hear how these false converts also cooperated with Muslims to overtake that country during the Muslim aggressions (oh, so that's why that nasty Catholic Queen Isabella kicked them out in 1492!)
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http://www.fisheaters.com/jc3.html

And do I need to mention the terrible persecutions that Christians are facing today in the Middle East? Why does that never get covered?
 
By the time you guys broke off and created your own religion, the jews had been harassed for thousands of years. You're an infant religion that apparently whines like one as well.

Continue to change to goalposts, but your disregard for truth at this point is blatant.
 
Continue to change to goalposts, but your disregard for truth at this point is blatant.

I haven't changed ****. My statement from the very beginning is that christianity is NOT the most persecuted religion, and it still is. You've done nothing to prove you're more persecuted than the jews. And besides, why does it matter to you what place you are? Are you going to walk away proudly with a badge of honor "member of the most persecuted religion"? Does that validate your beliefs in some way?
 
I haven't changed ****. My statement from the very beginning is that christianity is NOT the most persecuted religion, and it still is. You've done nothing to prove you're more persecuted than the jews. And besides, why does it matter to you what place you are? Are you going to walk away proudly with a badge of honor "member of the most persecuted religion"? Does that validate your beliefs in some way?

You tell me because it seems to be a huge point of contention for you. You asked me to provide examples of Christian persecution. I did and then you come back and say "well that's nothing compared to the Jews!" See where I might question your motives?
 
You tell me because it seems to be a huge point of contention for you. You asked me to provide examples of Christian persecution. I did and then you come back and say "well that's nothing compared to the Jews!" See where I might question your motives?

I didn't ask for examples of christian persecution, because I never claimed they were never persecuted. The question is "which is the most persecuted religion". I asked for proof that they were the most persecuted religion, which you've failed to do, so I guess we're done here.
 
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I didn't ask for examples of christian persecution, because I never claimed they were never persecuted. The question is "which is the most persecuted religion". I asked for proof that they were the most persecuted religion, which you've failed to do, so I guess we're done here.

I don't see anything in that link that shows you're more persecuted than the jews. If you'd like to explain when 6 million of you were murdered within a few years, I'd like to hear it.

Lol, care to reconcile this?
 
Lol, care to reconcile this?

Sure, you gave a situation in Russia where a lot of christians were murdered, but neglected to recognize that jews were murdered there just as indiscriminately. But really, I am done with this. I don't personally give a **** which one of you crybabies is the most persecuted. Take the "prize" if you really cherish it, phattonez, but recognize with it the world doesn't agree with you.
 
Sure, you gave a situation in Russia where a lot of christians were murdered, but neglected to recognize that jews were murdered there just as indiscriminately. But really, I am done with this. I don't personally give a **** which one of you crybabies is the most persecuted. Take the "prize" if you really cherish it, phattonez, but recognize with it the world doesn't agree with you.

I didn't neglect to recognize it, I merely answered your question. You're the one who took offense to being presented with facts.
 
In your reporting, did you speak often to perpetrators? Do you feel you understand the motivation?

I didn’t actually interview perpetrators. But if you talk with the intellectual architects of the violence, there is no single protagonist and no single explanation. Hindu radicals say it’s about hard-line Indian nationalism. And they see Christians as an alien presence. In Latin America, religion isn’t important. They are killing Christians because those are the ones standing up against terror. There have been dozens of priests and bishops killed by drug gangs who see them as a threat to their livelihood.

This is where the assertion starts to unravel. If the author never established the motive for the crimes then how does he know that they constitute persecution against Christians? I think that, more often than not, the religion of the victim(s) is incidental. For example, those priests and bishops in Latin America were killed simply because they are influential people in their communities who oppose the drug trade. They'd be just as dead if they were Pastafarians because religion has nothing to do with it. As other posters have also noted, these supposed examples of "persecution" lack context.

Many conflicts around the world are misinterpreted as being the result of religious zealousness, just because the people fighting them tend to be of differing religious backgrounds, even though religion isn't even the point of contention. Others are tit-for-tat conflicts with barbarous acts of terrorism committed by the Christians who then cry persecution when there is a response to that action. In terms of the "metaphorical war" in the US...give me a break. If I say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas then Christians in all 50 States start wailing. This "metaphorical war" is all about Christians claiming that they're being persecuted because I don't believe what they do and they can't make me or violate my rights.
 
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The worst victims of Christian persecution? Look beyond America, author says.

America's experience doesn't come close to what happens in the rest of the world, a reporter and author says.

As one of the most widely respected U.S. reporters covering the Catholic Church, John Allen travels around the world following popes. Allen, who has been with the National Catholic Reporter since 1997, said he became more and more struck by the sense of discomfort and sometimes fear and violence Christians experience in many spots outside the United States. That drove him to write “The Global War on Christians,” which came out this fall. Washington Post religion reporter Michelle Boorstein spoke with Allen about what he thinks is driving this and how it contrasts with religious tensions in the United States.





Q: Why did you do this book?
A: For my beat, I travel with popes. Anytime we’d go outside the West, I’d always bump into victims of Christian persecution. At first, I thought this was tragic but kind of rare. My idea of suffering was eating fish sticks on Friday. But then I realized: These are not outlier cases; this is a pattern. Why didn’t I know that?
Jews have the title for the most persecuted religion sewn up. If you want to argue that Christians are a distant second, I'd have to remind you of witches. Those would most persecuted runner's up.
 
Jews have the title for the most persecuted religion sewn up. If you want to argue that Christians are a distant second, I'd have to remind you of witches. Those would most persecuted runner's up.

I'm not arguing anything, as I've made clear on the thread.:peace
 
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