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Why the Virgin Birth?[w:46]

specklebang said:
I must confess that was one of my dumber posts. It's hard to be scintillating with true consistency.

Actually, yes, the "Old Testament". But what about all the Christian add-ons. Are they full of sex and murder also or is it just the original big 5? Real question cause I've never looked.
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:shrug: Go read the letters to the Corinthians, if you need one Epistle to focus in on. The NT is pretty upfront about sexuality as well. People sleeping with their fathers' wives, adultery, prostitution, etc. so on and so forth.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: Go read the letters to the Corinthians, if you need one Epistle to focus in on. The NT is pretty upfront about sexuality as well. People sleeping with their fathers' wives, adultery, prostitution, etc. so on and so forth.
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As I already acknowledged, I "misspoke". But if you like your religion, you'll be able to keep your religion:roll:.

Sounds like exciting stuff. I'll have to check it out.
 
specklebang said:
As I already acknowledged, I "misspoke". But if you like your religion, you'll be able to keep your religion:roll:.
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Sorry - I thought you were actually asking. There is a longer timeline in the OT by far, and so lots more sin, but sure, we don't lose Original Sin just because it's the NT :)

Sounds like exciting stuff. I'll have to check it out.
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The Holy Spirit kills people, even :).
 
specklebang said:
Now I'm confused (very easy to do in my case).

So, are you supporting my original (not so smart sounding) family friendly theory or are you or not? I gave up quickly after cpwill made a very good point, and I'm way out of my depth here, not being a religious person. I read my way through a Jewish version of the OT long ago and far away.

Do you have an explanation for the ":virgin birth" story? I would like to learn a little more so I don't inadvertently make disrespectful statements toward any religion. I may not be religious but I respect peoples rights to believe what they are taught.
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Not at all, my point is that a story about a nation With Power, war, and so on is naturally giong to have more sex and killing than a story about a teacher and his persecuted underclass Group and some letters to Churches ....

My explanation for the virgin birth story is that Jesus was born of a Virgin ...

If you were gonig to make a conspirasy theory though, taking out sex to make it more Family friendly would be a bad one, maybe trying to make Jesus more Divine or explain his sinlessness or something, but I think that Jesus WAS born of a Virgin .... interestingly Jesus was called a bastard by his enemies .... they knew Joseph wasn't his father.
 
RGacky3 said:
Not at all, my point is that a story about a nation With Power, war, and so on is naturally giong to have more sex and killing than a story about a teacher and his persecuted underclass Group and some letters to Churches ....

My explanation for the virgin birth story is that Jesus was born of a Virgin ...

If you were gonig to make a conspirasy theory though, taking out sex to make it more Family friendly would be a bad one, maybe trying to make Jesus more Divine or explain his sinlessness or something, but I think that Jesus WAS born of a Virgin .... interestingly Jesus was called a bastard by his enemies .... they knew Joseph wasn't his father.
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I don't like to engage in religious discussion very often because I'm a respectful person by nature and I don't feel that I have a place to attack other peoples beliefs on a subject that has no provable conclusions one way or the other.

I thought I carefully disclaimed any "conspiracy theory" right from the start and as soon as another poster educated me about later Biblical content, I acknowledged and I **** up.

I'm happy for you that you can reach back 2,000 years and say with such certainty that these people not only existed and weren't total fabrications to startup a new religion, but you know for certain the state of the hymen of one of the characters.

Faith.
 
specklebang said:
I don't like to engage in religious discussion very often because I'm a respectful person by nature and I don't feel that I have a place to attack other peoples beliefs on a subject that has no provable conclusions one way or the other.

I thought I carefully disclaimed any "conspiracy theory" right from the start and as soon as another poster educated me about later Biblical content, I acknowledged and I **** up.

I'm happy for you that you can reach back 2,000 years and say with such certainty that these people not only existed and weren't total fabrications to startup a new religion, but you know for certain the state of the hymen of one of the characters.

Faith.
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Oh no, I'm not saying I know 100% historically, I believe that on theological grounds, which are based on historical grounds.

But on historical grounds it could be made up perhaps, but you'd need a theory on why and how it was made up .... saying "to make it more Family friendly" isn't a good thoery.
 
RGacky3 said:
Oh no, I'm not saying I know 100% historically, I believe that on theological grounds, which are based on historical grounds.

But on historical grounds it could be made up perhaps, but you'd need a theory on why and how it was made up .... saying "to make it more Family friendly" isn't a good thoery.
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Agreed. I suppose my theory was outlined in the novel The Source by James Michener. As logical as any other "theory".
 
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