Perverse!
Wow, that sounds like very powerful intervention, on the part of what you feel is god acting in some way?
Paul
It's not only what I feel. I know it's God.
If you've read all the testimony I'd given above....the way everything fell into places like puzzle pieces....there was a purpose (but I don't know what that was). Perhaps the purpose has nothing to do with me at all. Perhaps I was just one of the tools that was used. Who knows of God's plan?
A little continuation of that saga: After a short stint in that new employment, I suddenly quit. The reason was so petty.
A co-worker (a Jehovah's Witness) was concerned about me. Yes, she and I would discuss religion on our breaks. She asked me what will I do now that I'm suddenly unemployed. I told her that I'll leave that up to God.
That very same night, I got a call from someone who'd heard about my previous work experience and offered me a full-time job. I initially declined because it's been quite a while since I'd done that. My husband talked me into setting up an interview to listen to their proposition. The way the job offer came about was also very interesting (at this point I was thinking of being guided by God because of all the previous things that happened within a short time). They gave the rate I quoted and I ended up working for them. Why did I end up being there?
Again, I don't know.....but there must've been a purpose for that.
While working for the place where I suddenly quit (it was a retirement home) - I and another Christian worker (with the permission of our employer) attended to a man who was dying (he used to be a Christian) and we reminded him to call on Jesus. He was half-conscious and we'd like to think that in his last moment, he thought of Him. His sister informed us that he looked peaceful in his death. Was that the purpose why I landed in that place? I don't know.
It could've been for that religion talk I've had with the JW for all I know. Or maybe expressing my faith and giving my testimony to another co-worker (who became an atheist because of all the sufferings she experienced as a young girl).
Btw, my previous employer from that retirement home where I suddenly quit - not to be confused with the previous employment where I was fired - we're still in good terms, though. She's a Christian and confided in me about her relations with her business partner (he was a confused Catholic who was being drawn to atheism).
My advice to her was to try to pull him back to Christ. After I'd quit, I saw them both at church for the Christmas service. We hugged one another. I'd seen her at random and every time we bumped into one another she'd say that she was thinking of me the night before. The last time I bumped into her, she gave me the wonderful news that they'd gotten married.
I would imagine
I would imagine many, many people can point to very similar experiences, and not feel there is any link with god.
When I left the Army I decided to do an electricians course. When I was carrying out my course I met someone who introduced me to an employer, thus I got a job. I was a bit fed up working where I was, so I just left (spontaneously), the very next day a job appeared in the local press, I applied, and got the job. These are just everyday situations, I do not pray, or look to some higher power for guidance. I'm a firm believer in opportunity is there, if we look hard enough.
Of course, if I was so inclined-with a little articulation-I could tell the very same story with a religious twist
Paul
That's your own experience. I'm not saying you feel there was or there should be a link with God about it.
However, if you're doing a serious comparison between your experience from the testimony I'd given....then I can see that you're not understanding deep enough what I'd just related, nor are you using good thinking skills. Your experience doesn't compare.
So you took a course, met someone who introduced you to an employer. What's so unusual about that? That's common!
Then you suddenly quit. Then you found another job through the classified ads! Again, nothing new with that! I'd done that, too....and didn't give that as a testimony, for obvious reasons.
Timing, and the way it all played out. Everything falling smoothly into places like puzzle pieces. That's the big difference between your experience from mine.
When I got fired - we still got the mortgage at exactly the same deal even though I was suddenly unemployed! About a week after, I found myself with a job (from a place I didn't really plan to apply at), same pay-rate, same job title, even much closer to my house - AND from one day as a casual (my first day of training) to sudden FULL-TIME position, because my trainer died. The welcome reception I got from my trainer too, was surprising (like as if he knew me all this time and was a very good friend) that even my employers and some co-workers were amused by it.
So, what did I lose from getting fired from that other job? Practically none. And I got away from aggravation and unfair treatment to boot! I think God wanted me out of there...and He knew I wasn't going to quit! I had to get fired.
When I suddenly quit from the next job, my JW co-worker was concerned because she knew I didn't have any prospects at all.
I said, I'll leave it up to God. That was said in the morning.
Well....that night, I got a phone call at home with a job offer for a full-time position which I never even applied for!
Unlike you, I didn't even get the chance to open the classified ads!
This job literally fell on my lap! Without any effort on my part!
On the same day that I said, I'd leave it all up to God!
I quoted my price at the interview and they gave it!
Btw, this episode started about 5 years ago (and it went on for a period of 3 years). I had another employment testimony of a prayer (answered the next day) but that was around the late 80's - before I truly found my way back to Christ. I gave that testimony, too sometime ago in this forum.
Of course I'm not trying to convince you to accept my testimony. I'm simply responding to this topic's question. You're in no position at all to evaluate what I'd personally experienced, especially when you try to compare mine with yours.
But like I said, I didn't give it a religous twist! All what you explain, can be explained rationally. There is such a thing as coincidence. Again it is not that unusual a story, you hear them all the time. Very recently I read of a guy giving up on a high flying career, and all these occurances happened to him in succession, that's life! It's a rollacoster, and there is such a thing as being in the right place at the right time. Do you believe in determinism? Paul
Do you understand that God is not a genie who grants wishes right?
Agreed but why then did jesus say believe in him?
Agreed but why then did jesus say believe in him?