We're not talking about regimes. The OP is about the ADL
So? Nether is the ADL. If they feel justified in pissing and moaning about the fact that Christians happen to believe some things that they dislike, I am more than justified in giving them the same treatment over their inane whining.
Their argument here is idiotic, and I called it out as such.
However, there is absolutely NO COMPARISON between ANYthing done to Christians as to what is done to Jews historically or day to day.
The USSR's firing squads, torture chambers, gulags, and habit of dousing priests in buckets of cold water until they literally
froze solid in the depths of the Russian winter were arguably in the same vein as what the Jews have suffered at various points in their history. However, that being said, I more than agree that nothing done to Christians in recent memory even remotely begins to compare to the sheer scale of the Holocaust.
I was simply saying that, historically speaking, Jews do not have any sort of monopoly on persecution. There are plenty of Christians living in the Middle East, India, and even China right now who are having just as rough a time of things as the Jews of Medieval Europe ever did.
I'm not familiar with their tactics.
Smear campaigns, libel, predatory lawsuits (for instance, suing groups of rednecks who barely make more than 20k a year for millions with a dream team of lawyers that the defendants could never possibly be able to match), and generally pushing for laws supporting censorship against things that they happen to disapprove of.
In the past, this wasn't such a big deal, as all they really targeted were fringe radical groups of White Supremacists. Now, they are attempting to expand their operations to target critics of Israel, Christians, more moderate members of the political right, and cultural traditionalists as well.
I'm sorry, but this rather clearly crosses the line between "common good" and simple ideological authoritarianism. Given the resources and political muscle at the ADL's disposal (and that of organizations like it), I find this to be disturbing.
They have basically become an organization entirely devoted to trying to dictate how other people should think. They are, for all intents and purposes, fundamentally "anti-Liberal."
I hope these tactics you detest involve more than lobbying and influencing politicians and trying to change laws within the system. That's pretty much what everyone does.
they're doing what pretty much every political and social organization in this country does.
Which doesn't make it right. On general principle, I disagree with all organizations that attempt to make use of state sponsored force to silence opinions in opposition to their own.
"Political correctness" simply cannot be allowed to trump the right to free expression.
And if their requests or claims are far off the mark they won't get away with it.
Let's hope so. However, I would point out that people like them have already gotten their way in much of the rest of the Western World.
Extremists should not simply be ignored in the hopes that they never pose a meaningful threat.
I need to know what it means to overstep their boundaries. Are they doing something illegal?
No, but something need not necessarily be illegal to be dangerous.
ILL BEHAVED??
"Ill behaved" is Sangha and me in an abortion discussion, not genocide.
Don't start a post with "The Holocaust was terrible. No one is going to deny this" and then reduce it to a trite euphemism.
You sound like Mike Sledge.
This is a poor attempt at poisoning the well. The simple fact of the matter is that there is absolutely no danger whatsoever of American Jews experiencing anything similar to the Holocaust in the near future.
As such, appealing to the Holocaust as a means of excusing the fact that certain influential Jews in modern American culture want to behave like self-righteous authoritarian bullies and try and dictate what beliefs may or may be appropriate for American Christians simply isn't valid. The two situations have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.
