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Sharia law

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What is sharia law and who wrote it? Did God write it as some muslims claim?
 
you are really fascinated with the scare sharia law that will never enter 97% of countries on this planet.
 
Glowpun said:
What is sharia law and who wrote it? Did God write it as some muslims claim?
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Google is your friend. Maybe your only friend.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
they also have Halakha courts and both can only arbitrate in civil matters, if both parties agree. Not a system I'm very fond of, but people tend to characterize it as something it is not
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Just seems strange that the women always lose in Sharia courts!!

Or just being a Muslim female as a matter of fact.
 
wolfie said:
Just seems strange that the women always lose in Sharia courts!!

Or just being a Muslim female as a matter of fact.
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I don't know the details of their rulings, but I am reluctant to take an unsourced quip like that as anything of value. But in the end, this is something both parties enter only when they choose to seek remedy through it freely.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
I don't know the details of their rulings, but I am reluctant to take an unsourced quip like that as anything of value. But in the end, this is something both parties enter only when they choose to seek remedy through it freely.
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Yes..''freely'' being the operative word!!
 
wolfie said:
Yes..''freely'' being the operative word!!
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well, clearly there is going to be social pressure to seek out arbitration. But if an individual cows to that, it's their own fault
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
well, clearly there is going to be social pressure to seek out arbitration. But if an individual cows to that, it's their own fault
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How amusing..you think Muslim women have rights?
 
wolfie said:
How amusing..you think Muslim women have rights?
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*sigh*. Yes, regardless of how people decide to exercise their rights, or not, they are still afforded the same protections as you under the law.
 
people are either hater or intentionally ignorant!
 
And far as I know, there is not THE Sharia law. There are different Muslim law schools that differ significantly one from another, yet all of them call their law "Sharia".

All of them base their law on A) the laws considered God's word as revealed to prophet Mohammed in Quran, and B) Sunna, which is a collection of countless tales and traditions of "Hadiths" about prophet Mohammed which often contradict each other, and many of which are not even considered reliable by the most orthodox Muslims.

So the respective interpretation of what "Sharia" is, varies very much from one region to the next. It depends on the approach (literal application of the laws, or rather taking the "gist" and "soul" behind it to take some more freedom) and which Hadiths are considered canon and which not.

Even countries like Turkey, if I am not mistaken, base their law system on Sharia to a good part -- but they chose a lenient, not literal approach and their law standards are generally considered not just acceptable, but even compatible with Western law traditions. On the other side, you have extremely orthodox applications of Sharia law, as for example in Saudi Arabia, which literally chops off the hand of thieves, punishes homosexual acts or apostasy with death by stoning and such things more.

So before we start hating or defending "Sharia", we should better have a closer look which kind of "Sharia" we are talking about.
 
Actually the turks abolished any notion of it during the ataturk reforms, I believe
 
German guy said:
And far as I know, there is not THE Sharia law. There are different Muslim law schools that differ significantly one from another, yet all of them call their law "Sharia".

All of them base their law on A) the laws considered God's word as revealed to prophet Mohammed in Quran, and B) Sunna, which is a collection of countless tales and traditions of "Hadiths" about prophet Mohammed which often contradict each other, and many of which are not even considered reliable by the most orthodox Muslims.

So the respective interpretation of what "Sharia" is, varies very much from one region to the next. It depends on the approach (literal application of the laws, or rather taking the "gist" and "soul" behind it to take some more freedom) and which Hadiths are considered canon and which not.

Even countries like Turkey, if I am not mistaken, base their law system on Sharia to a good part -- but they chose a lenient, not literal approach and their law standards are generally considered not just acceptable, but even compatible with Western law traditions. On the other side, you have extremely orthodox applications of Sharia law, as for example in Saudi Arabia, which literally chops off the hand of thieves, punishes homosexual acts or apostasy with death by stoning and such things more.

So before we start hating or defending "Sharia", we should better have a closer look which kind of "Sharia" we are talking about.
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Sharia law is universal to Muslims..then why does it differ so much between countries??

Are they making it up as they go along..or just choosing the bits that suite their particular circumstances??
 
wolfie said:
Sharia law is universal to Muslims..then why does it differ so much between countries??

Are they making it up as they go along..or just choosing the bits that suite their particular circumstances??
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That's because it's a complicated matter. After all, it is a law tradition.

Just look how much the laws and legal systems of different Western countries differ which base their law on the same traditions, or even the interpretations of different lawyers in the same country. It's not different there.
 
German guy said:
That's because it's a complicated matter. After all, it is a law tradition.

Just look how much the laws and legal systems of different Western countries differ which base their law on the same traditions, or even the interpretations of different lawyers in the same country. It's not different there.
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I agree, however, we do not crucify people..behead them..stone women to death..or cut thieves hands off...
 
wolfie said:
I agree, however, we do not crucify people..behead them..stone women to death..or cut thieves hands off...
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True ... but as far as I know, many Western country (at least partially) base their law systems on very old traditions, such as Roman law. Not long ago, we did such things too.

Hopefully, the Muslims who still do that reform their legal systems soon.
 
German guy said:
And far as I know, there is not THE Sharia law. There are different Muslim law schools that differ significantly one from another, yet all of them call their law "Sharia".

All of them base their law on A) the laws considered God's word as revealed to prophet Mohammed in Quran, and B) Sunna, which is a collection of countless tales and traditions of "Hadiths" about prophet Mohammed which often contradict each other, and many of which are not even considered reliable by the most orthodox Muslims.

So the respective interpretation of what "Sharia" is, varies very much from one region to the next. It depends on the approach (literal application of the laws, or rather taking the "gist" and "soul" behind it to take some more freedom) and which Hadiths are considered canon and which not.

Even countries like Turkey, if I am not mistaken, base their law system on Sharia to a good part -- but they chose a lenient, not literal approach and their law standards are generally considered not just acceptable, but even compatible with Western law traditions. On the other side, you have extremely orthodox applications of Sharia law, as for example in Saudi Arabia, which literally chops off the hand of thieves, punishes homosexual acts or apostasy with death by stoning and such things more.

So before we start hating or defending "Sharia", we should better have a closer look which kind of "Sharia" we are talking about.
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Can you supply more information on these different schools of Sharia law ?
 
Just one thing, its not Sharia law, its Sharia. Since Sharia literally means Islamic law saying Sharia law would be no different than saying Islamic law law. The same thing with "Madrassa" which literally means school.

But no, Sharia is not universal, different schools of thought have different ruling on various subjects unless the source material and precedence is very clear.
 
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