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160,000 people die every day. What is their eternal destiny?

Between 40,000 and 150,000 people go to Hell every day. Is this relevant to you?

  • Totally irrelevant: there is nothing we can do to alter the eternal destiny of these people.

    Votes: 7 58.3%

  • Totally relevant: there is much we can do to alter the eternal destiny of these people.

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • I am unsure:

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Total voters
    12
chromium said:
That's 112.5 every second! Wondering if any will find the huge # of deaths depressing in and of itself.
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No, not at all. If you've never seen the film Death Takes a Holiday, rent it, and I think you'll have a new perspective.
 
I am confident that most pastors are familiar with Christian dogma. Do you doubt this?
 
I am completely certain that nobody here on this earth knows who goes to heaven or hell.
 
The scripture being Romans 5 (IIRC)

Basically: "those who don't know the law, but do the things of the law, show that they have the law written on their hears. They are either accused or excused by their following of this law"
 
I said "unsure". I don't see how anyone can say that that shouldn't be everyone's answer. We don't know. We can speculate and hypothesize which makes for good thought and conversation but for anyone to say this is how it is and to literally believe it and then teach their children that as fact and so forth - that's what religions do.
 
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sKiTzo said:
I said "unsure". I don't see how anyone can say that that shouldn't be everyone's answer. We don't know. We can speculate and hypothesize which makes for good thought and conversation but for anyone to say this is how it is and to literally believe it and then teach their children that as fact and so forth - that's what religions do.
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What would you advocate teaching your children?

There is no God? Isn't that what 'religions do' since you can't prove that either?

Teaching your child about the creator isn't merely about the 'truth of the universe', but a set of principles which guide life to produce compassion, love, empathy, sharing and forgiveness.

If the parents believe this to ALSO be the truth of the universe, what problem is there teaching their child the truth?

(conversely, if you believe that isn't the truth, then please feel free to teach your child that [silence isn't an option] - but wouldn't you agree that is what 'religions do'?)
 
Teaching your child about the creator isn't merely about the 'truth of the universe', but a set of principles which guide life to produce compassion, love, empathy, sharing and forgiveness.
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You can teach them those things without making **** up about what happens to non believers when they die.
 
shlunka said:
I would imagine that even God would find me, although an atheist, to be charismatic and downright groovy enough to allow into his kingdom.
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If you're wondering about whether or not God would let you into his kingdom then are you really an atheist :2wave:
 
IceAndFire1328 said:
Poll Survey: The World’s Mortality Rate

Over 162,000 will die on an average day. What is their eternal destiny? Obviously, we have no idea.
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I have an idea, they don't have one; They're dead. Their story has been written, the book is now closed... no more destiny. In fact IMO no one has any fate or destiny, there is only what has happened and all possible futures.

I voted totally irrelevant, because even if they had an eternal destiny there's nothing to be done on this side for them... unless your religion has burial requirements for salvation, which many do.
 
Threegoofs said:
You can teach them those things without making **** up about what happens to non believers when they die.
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You're 'making up' is my truth.

You simply haven't or won't reach the point of understanding the precept upon precept to accept this truth.

(or you think it's foolish, untrue, etc.)

But I consider it truth, and will teach my children such.

(Note: I also don't think you can effectively teach those things I mentioned without the objective moral arbiter as the standard bearer)
 
There is no "we". All is all. Destiny doesn't exist if there is no beginning and no end.
 
SingleCellOrganism said:
What would you advocate teaching your children?

There is no God? Isn't that what 'religions do' since you can't prove that either?

Teaching your child about the creator isn't merely about the 'truth of the universe', but a set of principles which guide life to produce compassion, love, empathy, sharing and forgiveness.

If the parents believe this to ALSO be the truth of the universe, what problem is there teaching their child the truth?

(conversely, if you believe that isn't the truth, then please feel free to teach your child that [silence isn't an option] - but wouldn't you agree that is what 'religions do'?)
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I never said to teach your children there is no god, nor did I say that my belief is that there is no god. The information pertinent to this has been successfully suppressed so that today's "religions" could fill the void that TRUTH used to fill. It's quite obvious we were created, but no evidence exists as to by whom or what we were created. Telling your children anything other than that is akin to telling them that Santa Claus is a guy in a red suit who lives in the North Pole. WE DON"T KNOW.

We have to surmise, however, that when all the libraries like Alexandria, etc were burned, it was an attempt to erase all prior knowledge. All books were banned and burned. There could be no other reason for this than to bury the truth. Fortunately, when clay tablets thousands of years old were dug up in what used to be Mesopotamia, we get a glimpse of what they were trying to hide. What emerges are stories far older than the "bible", the difference is that the older stories make sense, whereas the bible raises too many questions. If you read it, you can see right away that the bible is modeled after much of it, but leaves out certain aspects of the truth that mankind decided is too unsavory. Like that we were created by a race of beings far more advanced than us, and the original purpose was for slaves. There were "gods" (plural) because these beings were looked upon as gods. This is where we get Greek "mythology". They were not myths. They existed. That's how it was. They cross-breeded birds with humans creating monsters. It is all described in great detail. In all of the readings that I read personally, a reference was made one time, by this advanced race of beings, to "the creator of all", which is a reference to a single deity, but no details are given.

In my opinion, there is no question (and for obvious reasons) that these older stories of history have way more credence than the bible.
 
You might ask where are these beings now, and why did they leave? They left because they found out (the hard way) that being on Earth ages them.
 
How many births are there every day and what is their destiny? 340,000 to 370,000 is the estimate which calculates out to over 130,000,000 new mouths to feed every year.
 
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160,000 people die every day. What is their eternal destiny?


I will answer this question the way a Catholic Priest answered that question for me: "I don't know these people."
 
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