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Do you believe that the Ten Commandments...
1) ...were written by God?
2) ...were well-written?
3) ...are out-dated?
I am not questioning whether or not God exists, as per the rules of the board. However, I have studied the Ten Commandments quite a bit and I can only come to the conclusion that they were written by humans living in a very archaic society.
This thread doesn't belong in the religion forum. Can you please move it?
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This thread doesn't belong in the religion forum. Can you please move it?
Do you believe that the Ten Commandments...
1) ...were written by God?
2) ...were well-written?
3) ...are out-dated?
I am not questioning whether or not God exists, as per the rules of the board. However, I have studied the Ten Commandments quite a bit and I can only come to the conclusion that they were written by humans living in a very archaic society.
Yeah, it's drink the Kool Aide and tell us you like it; no other comments are welcome.Most threads in the religion forum can't really function with the extra restriction. Many ask yes or no questions and then refuse to allow anyone to answer no. The ones that ask actual theological questions, certainly ought to be protected from derailment. But many are about moral questions, and everyone has something to say about them. This one asks if specific religious precepts are right, and then restricts people who want to say no. This segregated religious forum causes all kinds of problems and stifles discussion.
Admittedly derailing a bit myself here, but see post 31 for my response to the OP.
Most threads in the religion forum can't really function with the extra restriction. Many ask yes or no questions and then refuse to allow anyone to answer no. The ones that ask actual theological questions, certainly ought to be protected from derailment. But many are about moral questions, and everyone has something to say about them. This one asks if specific religious precepts are right, and then restricts people who want to say no. This segregated religious forum causes all kinds of problems and stifles discussion.
Admittedly derailing a bit myself here, but see post 31 for my response to the OP.
The point of the thread is transparent: To provide a forum for bashing the ten commandments. If this is allowed, what's to stop the OP from starting dozens of threads bashing various aspects of different religions? You can't bash the whole religion per the rules, so just pick one part of the religion at a time and bash that.
I can understand the source of your frustration, but remember why we have a religion forum in the first place: It's supposed to be a place for people who are religious to discuss and debate various aspects of their religion.
When you get a bunch of nonbelievers and atheists involved, all it does is turn every thread in to a "does God exist" debate, which eradicates any sort of nuanced religions discussion we might want to have, and robs us of any sort of variety in our religious discussions.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for having that debate... but there's a time and place for it. As far as I understand, that time and place is in the philosophy forum. I don't understand why some people continually feel the need to try to upset the apple cart on that.
This particular thread does not belong in the religion forum since its very intent is to dismiss religion. It just invites exactly the kind of debate we want to avoid in here, and it makes the experience less enjoyable. In my opinion, the mods have dropped the ball on this by allowing it to remain here.
The point of the thread is transparent: To provide a forum for bashing the ten commandments. If this is allowed, what's to stop the OP from starting dozens of threads bashing various aspects of different religions? You can't bash the whole religion per the rules, so just pick one part of the religion at a time and bash that.
What's next, a thread bashing Jesus? Muhammad? It's the same self-defeating logic.
I don't plan on participating in this discussion until it's moved, which is too bad, since the topic itself is interesting.
Gotta admit he was offensive though. He got worse as he got older, it seemed like he was filled with hatred for everyone.
People don't worship or pray to the cross.
This guy had the ten comandments pretty well all figured out;
George Carlin The Ten Commandments Broken Down - YouTube
A smart man loaded with lots of insight into arcane magical thinking. He was raised a catholic
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Not true. The cross dominates the alter in every christian church. It is bowed to and prayed to. It is worn as an iconic proof of belief .
The cross is indeed worshiped.
So by all means, respond to just me, then. I have no interest in discussing whether or not god exists, unless someone else invokes god as a reason to obey the commandments. Then I have to address that argument. But if you want to discuss whether or not they are a good set of rules based on their merits, then I'd love to.
Well of coarse god is invoked ... otherwise you're just debating Jewish law, and you can compare it with other law such as french law or whatever, then it's no longer a religious debate, it's a legal one.
What makes the mosaic law part of religion, and not just legal history is that God is invoked.
Religious debate pre-supposes that a God exists, and then you go from there as to the nature of revelation, scripture, what can logically be deduced from it and so on.
why not?please read the rules of this particular sub-forum. Posts like this are not allowed.
why not?
this forum is not used to mock religions
why not?
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It's not really a debate when you only let people who already agree with you participate. Pre-supposing that your position is correct... why bother discussing at all? There's no debate to be had. If all someone has is "god says so, so I must be right", and of course without credible evidence of this god existing or saying so, why bother opening your mouth at all? That's not an argument. That's just an appeal to authority.