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and this answers some of my questions...
sarcasm ? or not ?
and this answers some of my questions...
Isn't that exactly what you are doing?
that imam probably will lie to you
if we consider your news sources...........
imams are not very reliable people ,believe in me
not all of them are real believers or experts............
many of those are two faced bigots ignoring the verses l posted in my other post and they try to abuse ignorant people'S beliefs
l suggest you change your source of information
you dont live in a muslim society ,please dont be funny .l know lots of christians too
sarcasm ? or not ?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, lets back this thing up here. I am not in any way, shape, or form attacking, insulting, or trying to twist Islam. I've nothing but respect. First and foremost. I've never met a "Quran only" muslim, or as you prefer just Muslim.
What news sources of mine are you considering?
If I may point out something for you
The Private Apartments 49:11
O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name of disobedience after [one's] faith. And whoever does not repent - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
That being said, are you telling me Ibn Arabi, Said Nursi, Al Ghazali are kafir?
I'm not being disrespectful, I'd love to have a dialogue, but calling someone wrong and then point to the Quran only to turn about and do something also which is said shouldn't be done isn't making a strong case for you.
Medusa to ChecC3 said:in fact Muslims are Not interested in these so called hadiths
mbig said:Not considered or factual. Just free association/simple declaration and the attempted Ruination of debate. Again.
Hadith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Usage
The Overwhelming Majority of Muslims consider Hadith to be Essential supplements to and clarifications of the Quran, Islam's holy book, as well as in clarifying issues pertaining to Islamic jurisprudence. Ibn al-Salah, a hadith specialist, described the relationship between hadith and other aspect of the religion by saying: "It is the science most pervasive in respect to the other sciences in their various branches, in particular to jurisprudence being the most important of them."[13] "The intended meaning of 'other sciences' here are those pertaining to religion," explains Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, "Quranic exegesis, hadith, and jurisprudence. The science of hadith became the most pervasive due to the need displayed by each of these three sciences. The need hadith has of its science is apparent. As for Quranic exegesis, then the preferred manner of explaining the speech of God is by means of what has been accepted as a statement of Muhammad. The one looking to this is in need of distinguishing the acceptable from the unacceptable. Regarding jurisprudence, then the jurist is in need of citing as an evidence the acceptable to the exception of the later, something only possible utilizing the science of hadith."[4]
Obviously I am teaching you, are at least correcting you.are you teaching me my own religion ??
l usually see this arrogance .........
sunni islamists and some other bigots who are the followers of some sects can take them into consideration
but normal muslims are too smart to believe in them.
their guide is not wiki or hadiths ,only kuran
l said what l have to say..............
ignore or not...................
the muslims who know kuran dont believe in gazali or any other one..........................
like bible ,only kuran is valid!
you read those verses ,but still ignore............
But the sects differ among themselves: and woe to the Unbelievers because of the (coming) Judgment of a momentous Day! maryam 37
Of those who divided their religion and became seas every sect rejoicing in what they had with them.
ar rum 32
159. Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects) , you (O Muhammad ) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do. al anam 159
according to these verses ,yes l cant know gazali is kafir or not because l am not god ,but l cant believe in gazali as if he is a prophet!!!