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The various forms of Christianity

skeptical hippo

skeptical hippo

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So we all know there are a bunch and I am endlessly fascinated with the various differences between them. I though it would be cool to get everybody to chat about what christian faith they are and what they believe. Since there tend to be a lot of misconceptions about what faiths believe I thought it might help us all understand what each other believe better as well. Also I am a Catholic christian so feel free to ask me any questions too, I love to talk about this stuff
 
I like the Christianities that don't have hell and that have a second coming where everyone 'wakes up' and (most) decides to be good. That "go immediately to heaven or hell" deal (and the purgatory conception) doesn't appeal to me as much.
 
I am a Zen Methodist.
 
ecofarm said:
I like the Christianities that don't have hell and that have a second coming where everyone 'wakes up' and (most) decides to be good. That "go immediately to heaven or hell" deal (and the purgatory conception) doesn't appeal to me as much.
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So you are sort of Jehovah's Witness then who thinks the wicked awake too?
 
Fisher said:
So you are sort of Jehovah's Witness then who thinks the wicked awake too?
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Except I don't like their super-pacifism and some other stuff.

The wicked wake and get a second chance, if I'm to conceptualize salvation. I believe that the very thought of hopeless eternal damnation is disgusting to God, for He gives so that it may not be. I see those cast away in the final judgement to be utterly forgotten and without ripple of influence in the new world, but not suffering in fire - the fire represents total annihilation that doesn't stop but not torture without hope.
 
ecofarm said:
Except I don't like their super-pacifism and some other stuff.

The wicked wake and get a second chance, if I'm to conceptualize salvation. I believe that the very thought of hopeless eternal damnation is disgusting to God, for He gives so that it may not be. I see those cast away in the final judgement to be utterly forgotten and without ripple of influence in the new world, but not suffering in fire - the fire represents total annihilation that doesn't stop but not torture without hope.
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I don't like that blood thing. If I am bleeding to death, I don't care if you are filling me up with blood from an HIV positive alley cat just so I don't bleed to death.
 
Fisher said:
I don't like that blood thing. If I am bleeding to death, I don't care if you are filling me up with blood from an HIV positive alley cat just so I don't bleed to death.
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I don't like the blood thing either, but it lends to their support of vegetarianism.
 
I think "Sabbath as a moral law" (SDA being the most common) is interesting doctrine and philosophy.
 
ecofarm said:
I think "Sabbath as a moral law" (SDA being the most common) is interesting doctrine and philosophy.
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'Sabbath'

Abraham Heschel

BEST book I've read explaining the Sabbath. It really transcends the Judeo-Christian divide...
 
ecofarm said:
I like the Christianities that don't have hell and that have a second coming where everyone 'wakes up' and (most) decides to be good. That "go immediately to heaven or hell" deal (and the purgatory conception) doesn't appeal to me as much.
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Lol Does hell appeal to anyone except fools? Still if we are to believe the bible then hell exists and many will end up there.
 
ecofarm said:
Except I don't like their super-pacifism and some other stuff.

The wicked wake and get a second chance, if I'm to conceptualize salvation. I believe that the very thought of hopeless eternal damnation is disgusting to God, for He gives so that it may not be. I see those cast away in the final judgement to be utterly forgotten and without ripple of influence in the new world, but not suffering in fire - the fire represents total annihilation that doesn't stop but not torture without hope.
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Of course God doesn't look at eternal damnation as a good thing or like it. If he was a fan he would have sent us all there a long time ago since we tend to be such terrible people.
 
skeptical hippo said:
Ok I have to ask what do zen methodists believe? I have never heard of it.
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LOL, I believe in the natural necessity of good works as a component of proper faith, but I don't get all wrapped up in those literal interpretations of every single word of the Bible as being critical to its validity arguments--for instance I do not believe that Baptism is a necessary step for salvation the way others do. That, and I don't feel guilty if I sleep in on Sunday just so I get there every now and then :)
 
Fisher said:
LOL, I believe in the natural necessity of good works as a component of proper faith, but I don't get all wrapped up in those literal interpretations of every single word of the Bible as being critical to its validity arguments--for instance I do not believe that Baptism is a necessary step for salvation the way others do. That, and I don't feel guilty if I sleep in on Sunday just so I get there every now and then :)
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If God is all powerful do you really believe that he would allow his holy book to be filled with unimportant laws?
 
skeptical hippo said:
If God is all powerful do you really believe that he would allow his holy book to be filled with unimportant laws?
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I don't believe God micromanages men (that and there are lots of variations of "his holy book" so I cannot say that one is more right than the other).
 
skeptical hippo said:
Of course God doesn't look at eternal damnation as a good thing or like it. If he was a fan he would have sent us all there a long time ago since we tend to be such terrible people.
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Thus, I question the conceptualization of some Christians that hell means eternal damnation and torture without hope. If God was ok with that, he would not have bothered to provide salvation.
 
skeptical hippo said:
If God is all powerful do you really believe that he would allow his holy book to be filled with unimportant laws?
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Will you be frustrated and angry if posters reply with honest sincerity about their faith rather than ridiculing Christianity?
 
I'm a narrative Heideggerian Christian, with Marcionite overtones.

The gospel is an existential story, and Christianity doesn't need the "Old Testament" (i.e., the Hebrew Scriptures), despites their obvious insights into our moral condition.
 
ChezC3 said:
'Sabbath'

Abraham Heschel

BEST book I've read explaining the Sabbath. It really transcends the Judeo-Christian divide...
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I dunno who that it is, might see it someday, but checkin' out the metaphilo and accompanying citation is pretty cool.
 
ecofarm said:
Thus, I question the conceptualization of some Christians that hell means eternal damnation and torture without hope. If God was ok with that, he would not have bothered to provide salvation.
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So you think that Hell is a short time thing? Like jail time sort of?
 
Ray410 said:
Will you be frustrated and angry if posters reply with honest sincerity about their faith rather than ridiculing Christianity?
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? Do you think I'm against Christianity? As I put in the op I am a devout christian myself. I don't get your question.
 
ecofarm said:
Hell is separation from God (eternally), not fire and pokey sticks.
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Oh ok. Yeah I agree, I think the fire, like many other views of hell (such the devil as red and carrying a pitchfork) was made by non-christians.
 
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