Was Jesus teaching the Egyptian pagan religin?

Maenad · Dec 16, 2012

Was Jesus teaching the Egyptian pagan religion?

I have become interested in the Hermetic teachings of ancient Egypt. The more I've studied them, the more I realize how close they are to the teachings of Jesus. There is a legend that he was 'initiated' into the secret society/school at the Great Pyramid. According to legend each initiate got into the sarcophagus in the pyramid and it was struck 3 times with a tuning fork. When Jesus was in it and the corner was struck, a triangle shape of the corner fell off. According to legend this was the last time anyone was initiated at the great pyramid. When I was in Egypt someone asked our Egyptian guide if anyone still practices the ancient religion and he said, 'yes and they are all in San Francisco.' That would be the Rosecrucians. And much of their teaching involves 'alchemy.' I have a friend who is Rosicrucian and he says it means 'alchemy of the spirit and character.' But who knows. Jesus WAS said to have raised the dead and turned water into wine.

Here are the 7 Hermetic principles, (incidentally Hermes was also knows as the Egyptian god Thoth):

Hermetic Principles

1. Mentalism

The Principle of Mentalism is reflected in the Biblical quotation, "In the beginning was the Word." Ultimately all external reality is based on idea or concept. In the context of quantum physics, Mentalism means the physical world can be reduced to patterns of potential connections among potential concentrations of matter/energy that might or might not come into form, depending upon the introduction of consciousness. Twentieth-century physicists and consciousness researchers are thus on the edge of unraveling the implications of Mentalism that Hermetic initiates have known all along. Now anyone can grasp it's meaning: the basic force in the universe is mental.

2. Correspondence

The Principle of Correspondence, "as above, so below," means that one can infer the nature of distant realms from local experience. The dynamics of cells are parallel to the dynamics of galaxies. Just as a small laboratory or computer program can simulate the bahavior of stars billions of light years away, the consciousness of an individual being can confer with the Ultimate Consciousness that existed when there was only the word. This principle ensures, for example, that humans need not dread exposure to the idea of, say, extraterrestrials; they are derived from the same universal consciousness.

3. Vibration

The Principle of Vibration, which asserts that everything is in continual motion, is now a basic tenet of science. Subatomic particles are continually moving in relation to each other in every concentration of energy and mass in the universe.. The patterns of vibration occur in all manifestations- from dense stone, to gaseous molecules, to the thoughts and emotions of human beings. We have intuitively grasped the validity of this principle: we get "good vibes" about this or that. When we are on different frequencies with someone, we can wind down or increase the tension, thereby moving a situation to a congruent level of vibration.

4. Polarity

The Principle of Polarity embodies the truth that two seeming opposites are in truth compliments that differ only in degree- the obverse and reverse sides of the same coin. This principle applies in all realms. Photon particles are inextricably linked in pairs, with each as either the positive or negative aspect of the other. Hot and cold are but different aspects of the same temperature gradient. Any characteristic in nature or cosmic experience has it's own gradient-large and small, high and low, black and white, sharp and dull, male or female. Where does each pole end and the other begin? What about the shades of good and evil? The crucial point here is that all such polarities are only different vibrations on the same continuum. One can be transmuted into the other employing the Principle of Polarity.

5. Rhythm

The principle of Ryhthm means that everything manifests itself in a pattern of to and fro, up and down, in and out. The movement in one direction is always compensated for by a return. For every action, there is a reaction and for every advance there is a retreat.. The principle applies in all the affairs of the cosmos-stars, beings, mind, energy, and matter. It works in the interactions within a plane, and in communications between dimensions. Over time, the rythmns result in spiraling shapes that characterize much of the universe.

Understanding of the dynamics of this principle makes it possible to mitigate some of its more extreme effects. We can recognize that fatigue, followed by rest, leads to renewed energy. Anger gives way to remorse and pain succumbs to release. By being aware of the rhythmns, one is less likely to resist their flow, thereby reducing the buildup of extremes.

6. Cause and Effect

The Principle of Cause and Effect is more commonly known by its ordinary meaning: "x" acts on "y" and causes "z". From the Hermetic perspective, to say each effect has many causes is more accurate. This multilevel reality is epitomized by Carl Jung's use of the word "synchronicity" to describe events that, though outwatdly appearing to occur by chance, are actually the inner workings of one or more "cosmic laws". Indeed, all events are at some level the workings of cosmic law. What we attribute by "chance" is usually an event whose governing law is not evident. True chance or randomness probably occurs only at the level of quantum gaps, where there is a true break between past and future.

The Hindu concept of karma is an illustration of the principle of Cause and Effect, as is the Christian admonition,"as you sow, so shall you reap." Human societies are only now learning the dramatic effect of this principle in ecological systems. now humankind must become more aware of cosmic law in the realm of consciousness, in it's role as Conscious C0-Creators of the Universe.

7. Gender

Gender, the last Hermetic principle, has remained the most obscure because we tend to equate gender with primary physical sex characteristics. However, every being and every plane in the cosmos contain the dual elements of Yin and yang, feminine and masculine. The term "gender" recognizes the complimentariness within all self contained units of the universe. Even in apparent single-sexed entities, one aspect is the receptive nurturer, while another is the expressing creator. The principle of gender itself obeys the Principles of Polarity and Rhythm, in one circumstance manifesting the masculine aspect and in another the feminine. Neither is ever totally absent: in space-time balance is assured. Fully aware cosmic beings seek harmony in living their dual nature (Gender), honoring the ebb and flow (Rhythm) called for by the organic developements in self, society, solar system, and cosmos.

These seven principles are simple keys to the mysteries of matter-energy, spirit-mind, and consciousness.

The Hermetic Principles

According to what I have read, these principles are the key to being able to manipulate matter the way Jesus did, but the art has been lost over the ages. Science confirms that atoms behave differently when they are 'watched' and can even be in two places at once. So it would seem that humans would be capabale of forming the relationship with matter that would allow the manipulation of it the way Jsus was said to have done. Jesus said somewhere in the Bible that all his followers have the same powers he had. And Simon Peter walked on the Sea of Galilee until he lost his belief that he could do so. Also, at the beginning of his ministry he often said to keep his teachings 'secret.' He spoke of 'mysteries' and taught in parables, which seem to be the teachings of the Egyptian mystery religion. He also told to to 'ask, seek, and knock' and that all things would be revealed to us. In order to know the secrets of the Univers one must be a 'seeker.'

Matthew 7:7-12
New International Version (NIV)

“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

Any thoughts.

What say you? Have any of you taken a foray into esterica?

ecofarm · Dec 16, 2012

Re: Was Jesus teaching the Egyptian pagan religion?

I presume all religions are influenced by known previous ones.

Helix · Dec 16, 2012

Re: Was Jesus teaching the Egyptian pagan religion?

i have noticed strong similarities between the teachings of Jesus and Buddhism. Christianity (in theory) is almost like a child of Judaism and Buddhism, which makes sense.

Goshin · Dec 16, 2012

Re: Was Jesus teaching the Egyptian pagan religion?

I see no reason to believe this is a causal or otherwise significant link. The possible existence of certain parallels does not prove a connection.

wolfman24 · Dec 16, 2012

Re: Was Jesus teaching the Egyptian pagan religion?

heres a thought. What if all religions were based on the same fundamental principles. Those they believe in a single creator anyhow and maybe some that don't.

Would this explain the similarities? SO why piss and moan about which religion is the true one. Maybe they all are?

Maenad · Dec 16, 2012