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Does God Create Weather Disasters?

The Giant Noodle said:
One guy I know says 100% all major storms are caused by sin and Gods wrath.
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If that were true, how come Southern California has perfect weather 351 days a year and only sees a major earthquake once a decade.

If that were true, how come Las Vegas isn't buried in a sandstorm or experiencing a plague yearly.

If that were true, how come twisters seem to like the bible belt states?


Here's one to think about: If you move an infinite distance away from random events and chaos, you'll see the grand design.
 
NoC_T said:
The nearest I can get to an explanation is that God created the world with certain inbuilt natural phenomena. Perhaps essential ones. Human beings chose to place themselves in the path of them. Like Californians living in proximity to the fault line.
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What about the idea that nothing controls the weather and nothing created or creates the weather? What about the idea that weather is just weather?
 
Medusa said:
god is not david copperfield

l understand you but this life is not a fantasy world and bad things have to happen because we are being examined in this life.
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Really?

So the twenty 6 year-olds were massacred so others can be "examined" in this life, whatever that means? That was the purpose of their existence? To be the objects of an examination of others, and to be murdered to fulfill the purpose of someone else's test?

That's absurd.
 
Medusa said:
god is not david copperfield

l understand you but this life is not a fantasy world and bad things have to happen because we are being examined in this life.
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How is that not a fantasy world of wish thinking?
 
Paralogic said:
Really?

So the twenty 6 year-olds were massacred so others can be "examined" in this life, whatever that means? That was the purpose of their existence? To be the objects of an examination of others, and to be murdered to fulfill the purpose of someone else's test?

That's absurd.
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l never made such a statement................

that massacre is human's guilt .god didnt kill those children..


Medusa said:
no ,he just created the laws of physics .

l dont mean god punishes us through natural disasters

but god says we must endure the difficulties of this life and it means we are being examined
but firstly people must do something to protect themselves and their children ..


it is easy to put the blame on god.
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Medusa said:
...god didnt kill those children..
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But the god could have stopped the assassin but didn't. Even our inadequate legal system recognizes complicity and facilitation of crime a criminal offense too. Not to mention that the god actually created the assassin and, apparently, always knew what the assassin will do.
 
Paralogic said:
But the god could have stopped the assassin but didn't. Even our inadequate legal system recognizes complicity and facilitation of crime a criminal offense too. Not to mention that the god actually created the assassin and, apparently, always knew what the assassin will do.
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are you accusing an imaginary god ( you dont believe him) of letting them be killed?
 
Medusa said:
are you accusing an imaginary god ( you dont believe him) of letting them be killed?
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No.

I'm clarifying the position of the religious that by believing in a god they have to also believe that the god allows and instigates all misery, destruction and mass death, the purpose of which is a different matter. They can't cherry pick what their god can or can't do. The god is either responsible for *everything* or their belief is misguided.
 
Paralogic said:
No.

I'm clarifying the position of the religious that by believing in a god they have to also believe that the god allows and instigates all misery, destruction and mass death, the purpose of which is a different matter. They can't cherry pick what their god can or can't do. The god is either responsible for *everything* or their belief is misguided.
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we humans only believe in god ...if he created everything ,he must be able to do everything he wishes..

l am not a saint or prophet ,l cant understand what happens beyond the reason.
 
Medusa said:
we humans only believe in god ...if he created everything ,he must be able to do everything he wishes..
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Correct.

Now, if you want to be consistent, you'll also agree that the god wanted for the twenty 6-year-olds to be massacred. There's no two ways about this... either the god wanted this to happen or there are no gods.

Simple as that.
 
Paralogic said:
Correct.

Now, if you want to be consistent, you'll also agree that the god wanted for the twenty 6-year-olds to be massacred. There's no two ways about this... either the god wanted this to happen or there are no gods.

Simple as that.
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God is sovereign yet man is responsible. God is clear what his will is regarding murder so it is obvious he does not "want" it. That is the beauty or horror of our choices.
 
Stopandthink said:
God is sovereign yet man is responsible.
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That would mean that the god has no control over the behavior of men. That would mean that the god is not a god.
 
Paralogic said:
Then all people affected by the destruction of a weather event should thank the god that made a decision to allow that destruction.
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Or maybe if they live below sea-level they should evacuate when their governor tells them to.

It's not like we don't have satellites telling us exactly when which storm will hit where weeks in advance....
 
NoC_T said:
Natural disasters are one of those things I can't square away with my belief in God. That innocents should die horribly, at the hands of natural phenomena that He created. There's no debate of free will to be had.
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It took me quite a while to come to grips with this but............. none are innocent.......ALL are born into a broken and sinful world and are separated from God because of it. Young children are blameless perhaps.......and sadly they often become the victims of a fractured world. I believe that these children who are victims of tragedy will not suffer eternally, hoever. I still also believe, with all of my being, that God has a plan and a purpose behind everything that occurs. I believe that my God "paints on a canvas" which is often too big and too complex for us to always comprehend. :shrug:
 
Another thread started for the single purpose of providing a ridicule board for the atheists and homosexuals.

Why not give it a rest for awhile?

It is nobody's fault but your own that others have faith and are happier and more content than you. Your rage, envy and hatred is not attractive, regardless of how you disguise it.
 
FluffyNinja said:
It took me quite a while to come to grips with this but............. none are innocent.......ALL are born into a broken and sinful world and are separated from God because of it. Young children are blameless perhaps.......and sadly they often become the victims of a fractured world. I believe that these children who are victims of tragedy will not suffer eternally, hoever. I still also believe, with all of my being, that God has a plan and a purpose behind everything that occurs. I believe that my God "paints on a canvas" which is often too big and too complex for us to always comprehend. :shrug:
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Agreed. I have to believe that He sees things from a perspective too large for us to comprehend. To an Atheist that would sound like a cop out, but it's simply one of the less palatable truths that the faithful must come to terms with.
 
Ray410 said:
Another thread started for the single purpose of providing a ridicule board for the atheists and homosexuals.

Why not give it a rest for awhile?

It is nobody's fault but your own that others have faith and are happier and more content than you. Your rage, envy and hatred is not attractive, regardless of how you disguise it.
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Who are you talking to? In fact WHAT are you talking about? Youre babbling.
 
Dragonfly said:
What about the idea that nothing controls the weather and nothing created or creates the weather? What about the idea that weather is just weather?
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Obviously, I don't believe that, not being an Atheist.
 
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