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What should Gay Christians do?

Chiefgator said:
You are correct. I don't believe that... Therefore, I do not "get it".
And frankly, I am quite happy that I do not "get it".
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What's the part you don't get? That we are all sinners or that only God is qualified to judge?
 
Paschendale said:
God creates people. God makes some of them gay. God punishes those people for being the way he created them. This is a mistake that should not come from a supposedly perfect being. If you take the position that god is just, perfect, and benevolent, then it stands to reason that such a creature could not and would not subject people to that kind of situation. If god is perfect, then Christianity, Judaism, and presumably Islam must be wrong about homosexuality.
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That makes sense...Religion is used as a crutch to be against homosexuality....such as Its ok for gays to marry just not for them to exist...
It makes far more sense to me to understand that homosexuality is something some humans are born too and therefore have a right to be...legal marriage and all its benefits is where I differ.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
This is true. That is why I have posted the TRUE interpretations many times at DP, hoping that folks will understand the true word of God.
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True as in how you interpret it
 
lpast said:
Thats what I said...lol...brilliant deduction there buddy
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Your correct, i should have not skimmed through your post so quickly, i apologise.
 
24107 said:
Your correct, i should have not skimmed through your post so quickly, i apologise.
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Not a problem :) no one and I mean NO ONE screws up here reading more than me...
 
CriticalThought said:
What do you think gay Christians should do with their lives in order to live in compliance with the Christian faith?

Should they seek to change their sexual attractions?
Should they choose to remain celibate for the rest of their lives?
Should they marry a person of the opposite sex?
Should they seek a long term relationship or marriage with someone of the same sex?
Should they seek to change their religious affiliation or scriptural interpretation to one that accepts their sexual orientation?

I'm not Christian, but as a gay individual I often hear people proclaiming that homosexual behavior is "living in sin". I notice they don't exactly articulate what the alternative should be or even advocate the benefits of an alternative. That is part of the problem I often have with those individuals. They can yell, "I don't agree with the way you live," but they don't offer any friendly suggestions as to how people should live their lives if they have same sex attractions. In my opinion it kind of says a lot about their true intentions and how little they actually care about people with same sex attractions. They are only interested in condemning the behavior and not helping them find a way to live a wholesome and happy life in accordance with their faith.
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Its a tough subject. However I have heard of gay christians becoming straight as weird as that might sound. I once heard a formerly gay christian say that it is like any other sin you have to learn to control it.
 
I have never known a gay Christian to be "cured." What I have seen is terrible pain and anguish in the struggle.

What should gay Christians do? Just the same as every Christian--pick up that cross day after day, stumble and fall as we all do, and pick it up again in the morning, secure in the knowledge that their Father, who created them, loves them every bit as much as He does all of His kids, sinners every single one of us.
 
nota bene said:
What's the part you don't get? That we are all sinners or that only God is qualified to judge?
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I do not believe there is a such thing as a sin nor do I believe in a god. Religion is a superstision used by the ancients to explain things that they could not comprehend and to control the masses.

It is still used in that exact same manner.
 
Chiefgator said:
I do not believe there is a such thing as a sin nor do I believe in a god. Religion is a superstision used by the ancients to explain things that they could not comprehend and to control the masses.

It is still used in that exact same manner.
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And you are certainly entitled to your own beliefs. Thankfully, your belief, or lack thereof, does not make it any less real for those of us who do believe. Has anyone ever physically "forced" you to believe in God, or sin, or in heaven or hell? I hope that is not the case.
 
nota bene said:
I have never known a gay Christian to be "cured." What I have seen is terrible pain and anguish in the struggle.

What should gay Christians do? Just the same as every Christian--pick up that cross day after day, stumble and fall as we all do, and pick it up again in the morning, secure in the knowledge that their Father, who created them, loves them every bit as much as He does all of His kids, sinners every single one of us.
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Thats all true but that doesnt help you one bit if you dont turn away from your sinning ways. Same as it doesnt help us if we dont turn away from our sins.
 
CriticalThought said:
What do you think gay Christians should do with their lives in order to live in compliance with the Christian faith?

Should they seek to change their sexual attractions?
Should they choose to remain celibate for the rest of their lives?
Should they marry a person of the opposite sex?
Should they seek a long term relationship or marriage with someone of the same sex?
Should they seek to change their religious affiliation or scriptural interpretation to one that accepts their sexual orientation?

I'm not Christian, but as a gay individual I often hear people proclaiming that homosexual behavior is "living in sin". I notice they don't exactly articulate what the alternative should be or even advocate the benefits of an alternative. That is part of the problem I often have with those individuals. They can yell, "I don't agree with the way you live," but they don't offer any friendly suggestions as to how people should live their lives if they have same sex attractions. In my opinion it kind of says a lot about their true intentions and how little they actually care about people with same sex attractions. They are only interested in condemning the behavior and not helping them find a way to live a wholesome and happy life in accordance with their faith.
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The question cannot be answered without knowing which "Christianity" you're referring to. There are actually two types. The first Christianity is people who have had a supernatural rebirth rooted in an awareness of their spiritual inadequacy before their holy creator, repentance, faith in Jesus' substitutionary punishment for their sins and faith his resurrection. The second Christianity is cultural whereby people possibly go to church and attempt to conform to religious culture and/or attempt to cause religious culture to conform to them.
 
Well, Jesus said:

Matthew 19 said:
12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.
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The same the rest of us do... ask forgiveness. I mean really we all sin every day. I don't know why people think homosexuality is any worse than fornication, adultery hell even stealing and telling a lie. None of us are really any better as far as sin is concerned.

In the end it is between you and God. I am just a flawed human, just like any gay person etc.

What I can do is try (so hard) to lead by example.
 
CriticalThought said:
What do you think gay Christians should do with their lives in order to live in compliance with the Christian faith?

Should they seek to change their sexual attractions?
Should they choose to remain celibate for the rest of their lives?
Should they marry a person of the opposite sex?
Should they seek a long term relationship or marriage with someone of the same sex?
Should they seek to change their religious affiliation or scriptural interpretation to one that accepts their sexual orientation?

I'm not Christian, but as a gay individual I often hear people proclaiming that homosexual behavior is "living in sin". I notice they don't exactly articulate what the alternative should be or even advocate the benefits of an alternative. That is part of the problem I often have with those individuals. They can yell, "I don't agree with the way you live," but they don't offer any friendly suggestions as to how people should live their lives if they have same sex attractions. In my opinion it kind of says a lot about their true intentions and how little they actually care about people with same sex attractions. They are only interested in condemning the behavior and not helping them find a way to live a wholesome and happy life in accordance with their faith.
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They should live chastely. It would be wise for them to seek the assistance of a spiritual director or confessor. There are also groups such as courage that can help. If a person wishes to pursue psychological remedies to become heterosexual, that is their choice.
 
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