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Question for Monotheists

Ok, so Arab Christians are still saved but God doesn't hear their prayers because they pray to Him in Arabic?

If an Arab is a Christian he will pray in the name of Jesus Christ. No problem there. If he prays in the name of allah, then his prayer isn't heard. Allah is not God. Allah is not the father of Jesus Christ.

Quantrill
 
If an Arab is a Christian he will pray in the name of Jesus Christ. No problem there. If he prays in the name of allah, then his prayer isn't heard. Allah is not God. Allah is not the father of Jesus Christ.

Quantrill

According to the Bible Allah is the father of Jesus.
 
According to the Bible Allah is the father of Jesus.

No, allah is no God and has no place with Jesus Christ or the Father.

Quantrill
 
No, allah is no God and has no place with Jesus Christ or the Father.

Quantrill

Ok, if you want to believe that the Bible is wrong, that is your perogative.
 
Ok, if you want to believe that the Bible is wrong, that is your perogative.

I believe the Bible is the Word of God. And no where does it allow for allah being God. That is the Word of God.

Quantrill
 
I believe the Bible is the Word of God. And no where does it allow for allah being God. That is the Word of God.

By your logic, the Bible makes no allowances, then for Dios to be God. Or Déu, or Bůh or Jumala or ღმერთი or θεός or Бог or dumnezeu or אל or גאָט or бог or Tanrı, or any of the other words that are used in any of all the other languages of the world, to refer to God. By your logic, only one who speaks English, and who refers to God by the English forms of any of his names, can worship the true God.
 
By your logic, the Bible makes no allowances, then for Dios to be God. Or Déu, or Bůh or Jumala or ღმერთი or θεός or Бог or dumnezeu or אל or גאָט or бог or Tanrı, or any of the other words that are used in any of all the other languages of the world, to refer to God. By your logic, only one who speaks English, and who refers to God by the English forms of any of his names, can worship the true God.

Don't be silly. Pay attention to whats being said. Allah is not the name of the God of the Bible. Allah is the name muhammed used which was already used of one of the local gods of the Quarysh tribe in Mecca. Allah was a god of rocks and stones. It is this god that muhammed built his revealations around. Not the God of the Bible. Muhammed perverted what little he knew in the Bible and changed it to fit the Arab people.

So, it's not about translating the name of 'God'. Its using the name of a false god, allah, and attributing it to the God of the Bible. And you cannot do that and be Christian.

There were several gods the Quraish tribe worshipped. One was allah. The others were allah's daughters, al-uzza, al-hat, and Marah. (Durant, Age of Faith, p. 161).

Quantrill
 
Don't be silly. Pay attention to whats being said. Allah is not the name of the God of the Bible. Allah is the name muhammed used which was already used of one of the local gods of the Quarysh tribe in Mecca. Allah was a god of rocks and stones. It is this god that muhammed built his revealations around. Not the God of the Bible. Muhammed perverted what little he knew in the Bible and changed it to fit the Arab people.

So, it's not about translating the name of 'God'. Its using the name of a false god, allah, and attributing it to the God of the Bible. And you cannot do that and be Christian.

Do you know what name Arabic-speaking Christians use to address God?
 
Yes, He is the God of Israel. And His relationship with Israel is as a husband and wife. At present Israel is in a divorced state due to her past idolotries. Isaiah 50:1 " Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother's divocement, whom I have put away?...Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away."

Quantrill

El is the God of Israel, and his wife is Asherah, the "Tree of Life", fertility Goddess to the southern Levant. The book of Kings tells us she is housed in the temple of Yahweh.
 
Do you know what name Arabic-speaking Christians use to address God?

What I know is that allah is not the God of the Bible. And if Arab speaking Chrisitians are using it then they are wrong and it is an insult to the God they 'supposedly' worship.

Allah is the name of a false god. The god of rocks. If you want to know about allah, go to the koran. Bend your knee at the kabbah and kiss the black stone. Its all part of islam. All part of rock worship. All part of 'allah'.

God is not allah. And allah is not a true name for God.

Quantrill
 
El is the God of Israel, and his wife is Asherah, the "Tree of Life", fertility Goddess to the southern Levant. The book of Kings tells us she is housed in the temple of Yahweh.

I don't know what your talking about. And, neither do you.

Quantrill
 
What I know is that allah is not the God of the Bible. And if Arab speaking Chrisitians are using it then they are wrong and it is an insult to the God they 'supposedly' worship.

Allah is the name of a false god. The god of rocks. If you want to know about allah, go to the koran. Bend your knee at the kabbah and kiss the black stone. Its all part of islam. All part of rock worship. All part of 'allah'.

God is not allah. And allah is not a true name for God.

Quantrill

Translate God into Arabic, and tell me what comes up.
 
Translate God into Arabic, and tell me what comes up.

As I already showed, allah was the name of one of the local gods of the Quraish tribe. The others were al-uzza, al-lat, marah. (Durant, Age of Faith, p. 161)

Also, " The name used for God was 'Allah', which was already in use for one of the local gods (it is now used by Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians as the name of God). (A History of the Arab Peoples, Albert Houraini, p. 16)

Quantrill
 
For example, if you are Christian, do you regard any of the above as a different name...

No need to be a Christian to answer this question.

All non-Christians go to the Christian hell. No exceptions.
 
To me, they are synonomous, and the differences lie in the cultures of the people who recognize them.
This is my own perspective.
 
No need to be a Christian to answer this question.

All non-Christians go to the Christian hell. No exceptions.
Admit it. That was a troll.
 
There are those who believe that the supreme beings in all of the different religions of the world are simply all the same being. God, Allah, Yahweh, Om, Onkar, etc. all refer to the same thing according to these believers.

My question is... are they all synonymous in your eyes? For example, if you are Christian, do you regard any of the above as a different name for what you already believe in, or is "God" your God and Allah is theirs?

Please explain your answer because I am curious!

As a taoist I personally have no problem with how people from other beliefs view,anthropomorphasize,or personalize the Tao.
Personalizing the Tao is not forbidden in Taoism,as long as you realize thats all you are doing.
I myself tend refer to the Supreme as "Mother".
Different strokes for different folks.
Personally, I think the "Supreme" has way less of a hangup about Titles,Rituals,and Beliefs then what a lot of "worshippers" think.


from the TAO TE CHING:

1
The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.

The unnamable is the eternally real.
Naming is the origin
of all particular things.

4
The Tao is like a well:
used but never used up.
It is like the eternal void:
filled with infinite possibilities.

It is hidden but always present.
I don't know who gave birth to it.
It is older than God.

6
The Tao is called the Great Mother:
empty yet inexhaustible,
it gives birth to infinite worlds.

It is always present within you.
You can use it any way you want.

7
The Tao is infinite, eternal.
Why is it eternal?
It was never born;
thus it can never die.
Why is it infinite?
It has no desires for itself;
thus it is present for all beings


To me,names like Jehova,Yahweh,Allah,and yes,even Tao are just ways of trying to understand something that transcends all human understanding.
 
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I'm Baha'i and I believe there is only one and only God. So when other religions pray to a God, it must be this one and only God, as no other Gods exist.

We cannot know God except through His prophets or "manifestations", who reflect God's truth like a mirror reflects the sunlight. The Baha'i scriptures explicitly mention several manifestations:

Abraham, Moses, Krishna, Zarathustra, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, the Bab and Baha'u'llah. As a lesser prophet, Confucius is mentioned too. Soo at least the religions of Judaism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Christianity, Islam and Baha'i religion stem from God. It's well possible that other religions or cults, which are not explicitly mentioned, belong to that list too.

They all are the same and their teachings all contain the same core: They were the perfect medicine to treat the illnesses of mankind in their respective context of time and region. They only appear different, not because God changes, but because mankind changes and develops. In different stages of development, the illnesses of mankind change, so the treatment must be different too.

From a Baha'i view, the most recent and thus most fitting revelation was the Baha'i religion revealed by Baha'u'llah in 19th century Persia/Middle East, which addresses today's problems best. But that doesn't mean previous religions are illegitimate.

Another problem that comes with older religions concerns the tradition of teachings and scripture, though: Many holy scriptures were written down long after the respective prophet/manifestation lived on earth, it had often been passed on orally, so we cannot be sure how accurate the tradition is. There may be tradition errors or deliberate attempts to mix the teachings of a prophet with content that didn't really belong to his revelation, yet still has become the basis of the respective religion.

For example, Moses lived 1300/1200 B.C. IIRC, but the OT was not really written down before the 6th or 5th century B.C. The Buddhist Pali Canon was written down at least 200 years after Buddha had passed. So authenticity is another problem.

The younger a religion is, the more reliable is its tradition, usually.
 
There are those who believe that the supreme beings in all of the different religions of the world are simply all the same being. God, Allah, Yahweh, Om, Onkar, etc. all refer to the same thing according to these believers.

My question is... are they all synonymous in your eyes? For example, if you are Christian, do you regard any of the above as a different name for what you already believe in, or is "God" your God and Allah is theirs?

Please explain your answer because I am curious!

depends on what you mean by synonymous. certainly I think when you reference the One Self-Existent Creator God (as all the faiths you mention do, insofar as I am aware) that you are referencing the same general entity. There is certainly truth in all faiths to varying degrees; as a Christian I simply hold that where other faiths conflict with my own, they are incorrect. When Islam teaches that Jesus was a mere mortal man, though a Prophet, that is mutually contradictory with my claim that he was the Manifestation of God on Earth, and both cannot be correct.
 
I don't know what your talking about. And, neither do you.

Quantrill

El tells you who he is. He's one of the EL-ohim. He's biblical, so it must be true. How can a true believer like yourself be so ignorant of your God's humble beginnings?
 
There is certainly truth in all faiths to varying degrees; as a Christian I simply hold that where other faiths conflict with my own, they are incorrect. When Islam teaches that Jesus was a mere mortal man, though a Prophet, that is mutually contradictory with my claim that he was the Manifestation of God on Earth, and both cannot be correct.

Can you clarify that statement?
Are you basically saying that because you are a Christian whatever YOU believe about the Nature and Manifestations of the Supreme is automatically FACT (i.e. is correct),and anyone who holds different beliefs than you are automatically wrong?

And if so can you explain and provide proof why that is so?
 
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Can you clarify that statement?
Are you basically saying that because you are a Christian whatever YOU believe about the Nature and Manifestations of the Supreme is automatically FACT (i.e. is correct),and anyone who holds different beliefs than you are automatically wrong?

And if so can you explain and provide proof why that is so?

I am saying that as a Christian, I believe that where other faiths contradict Christianity they are false. but Christianity itself holds a fairly wide range, and within that my personal position is probably screwed up in any number of ways.
 
I am saying that as a Christian, I believe that where other faiths contradict Christianity they are false. but Christianity itself holds a fairly wide range, and within that my personal position is probably screwed up in any number of ways.

According to Christianity ,homosexuality is a sin ( a bad thing,a wrong thing).
In Taoism,homosexuality is accepted as being " just the way some people are".with the individual being the one who must whether it is right or wrong.

Why is Taoism automatically wrong about homosexuality?

Judaism does'nt recognize Jesus Christ as the Messiah.
Why is Judaism automatically wrong?
 
El tells you who he is. He's one of the EL-ohim. He's biblical, so it must be true. How can a true believer like yourself be so ignorant of your God's humble beginnings?

Again, I don't know what your talking about. God has no begining.

Quantrill
 
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