And how do you explain Revelation 20:10?
Rev 20:10 declares this: "
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
So it is saying the Devil and the beast and the false prophet (singular) but it does not say that people will be there.
And in that case the word "torment" does not mean to torture, as in burning a being in fires for all eternity - certainly NOT.
When anyone discovers that we are sinners our self then that is the most severe torment of them all, and that kind of torment produces repentance.
The Devil and beast and prophet will be "saved" from death but they will not find their own repentance and that is where there will be their torment.
See here
1 Corinthians 3:15 = "
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."
The "fire" cleans and purifies while the person is "saved".
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that's a nice version of god
It is a nice version, but I see it more as a loving version of God.
The God who loves and cares and forgives and who saves all of His children.
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You believe that?--Jesus teaches--Matt 7:21-23-- Jesus also teaches Few will find the entrance to the narrow gate. Many are on the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction( lake of fire)-- not eternal suffering.
That is an excellent point, but Christians are applying it inaccurately.
Jesus talks both about this world and this lifetime and also secondly about the future Kingdom of God.
As such in this world and in this lifetime then Jesus is telling it accurately that very few will find the way or the truth, and as such many in this world will be lost and suffer and will both live and die in vain, but later after the resurrection then every person will then see and learn the truth and THEN every person will be saved - "Every knee shall bow ... and every person shall confess"
Philippians 2:10-11, and this too -
2 Peter 3:9 It is God's will that all people come to repentance.
Since God wants repentance and salvation from every person then God gets what God wants because God's will always gets done.
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For the wages of sin is death. Not only a physical death but a spiritual death. Death is a separation of 2 things. a physical death is the separation of spirit and body. Sinners will be permanently removed from God's presence.
The Bible - the Apostle Paul explains that much differently.
The "death" means "dead to sin" so yes it is a spiritual death which leads to salvation - see here Romans 6:2-10 "
DEAD TO SIN".
Plus no one can ever be removed from the presence of God - that can not be done.
Your right salavation is for all man kind but not all mankind will accept that salvation. John 3:16 pretty much backs this up.
God doesn't exclude anyone it is people that exclude themselves.
That is because you are mixing up two (2) different things which are not to be mixed up.
People do exclude their self now and today in this lifetime and so they are lost here and now, but on the Judgement Day then everyone will THEN know and see the truth and every person will get saved on that Judgement Day.
The famous
John 3:16 is accurate but it has two (2) applications.
Some few people will believe and will know in this world and in this lifetime, while most people will only believe in the next lifetime and their later belief will still be governed under John 3:16 as there is no time limit on the promises of God. They believe on Judgement Day then that counts and they all gets saved as per
John 3:16.
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If that's the case, what were all those warnings about damnation and barred from entry into the kingdom of God - all those stern repeated warnings that came from Jesus Christ?
The warnings of damnation and of pain and suffering and death are all applying to this lifetime here and now, and those warnings are all true.
In this world and in this lifetime there will be suffering and misery - but in the next life that will come to an end.
God is NOT going to resurrect people so they can be punished - no, the resurrection and Judgement Day are all a part of the gigantic salvation of all the sons and daughters of God / all of humanity gets saved.