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    Simone Askew

    For those not aware of who this wonderful young lady is:


    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...-point-cadets/

    My question is this, when do half black/half white (or any other race) stop being "black"?

    She's smart, a leader, strong and disciplined, yet she is also "black" even though her "black" father left the picture many years in the past, she was raised almost exclusively by her "white" mother, who Ms. Askew references in interviews.

    Of course President Obama was the first "black" President, even though he was also half white (maybe more), raised by his "white" family more so then the black side, but he's "black", not mualtto or some other term. Obama should be the first mulatto President, Simone Askew should be the first mulatto to lead West point, or is that correct term too derogatory to apply?

    I was married in 2001and that option was on the license, if it's good enough for me and you why not these people?

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    Re: Simone Askew

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    For those not aware of who this wonderful young lady is:


    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...-point-cadets/

    My question is this, when do half black/half white (or any other race) stop being "black"?

    She's smart, a leader, strong and disciplined, yet she is also "black" even though her "black" father left the picture many years in the past, she was raised almost exclusively by her "white" mother, who Ms. Askew references in interviews.

    Of course President Obama was the first "black" President, even though he was also half white (maybe more), raised by his "white" family more so then the black side, but he's "black", not mualtto or some other term. Obama should be the first mulatto President, Simone Askew should be the first mulatto to lead West point, or is that correct term too derogatory to apply?

    I was married in 2001and that option was on the license, if it's good enough for me and you why not these people?

    I was wondering where that would be asked on a DL. 1st thought of South Africa, that was wrong.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/josh-dawsey/
    “The whole episode is sadly unsurprising,” said a senior U.S. official familiar with U.S. policy on Ukraine. “It’s the epitome of impulsive, self-serving decision-making at the top that has undermined American power.”

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    Re: Simone Askew

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    For those not aware of who this wonderful young lady is:


    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...-point-cadets/

    My question is this, when do half black/half white (or any other race) stop being "black"?

    She's smart, a leader, strong and disciplined, yet she is also "black" even though her "black" father left the picture many years in the past, she was raised almost exclusively by her "white" mother, who Ms. Askew references in interviews.

    Of course President Obama was the first "black" President, even though he was also half white (maybe more), raised by his "white" family more so then the black side, but he's "black", not mualtto or some other term. Obama should be the first mulatto President, Simone Askew should be the first mulatto to lead West point, or is that correct term too derogatory to apply?

    I was married in 2001and that option was on the license, if it's good enough for me and you why not these people?
    You might check Miriam Webster, which notes the term mulatto is now often deemed offensive. Perhaps its derivation from the term mule is the reason.
    People with parents of different races are bi-racial, or multi-racial.

    I believe I recall Obama discussing your first question. He looks like a black man. People perceive him as black. He never denied his background.

    It is distressing to see that Meaghan Markel is getting some grief in Great Britain, and she looks white. When we advance to the post racial society let me know.

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    Re: Simone Askew

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    For those not aware of who this wonderful young lady is:


    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...-point-cadets/

    My question is this, when do half black/half white (or any other race) stop being "black"?

    She's smart, a leader, strong and disciplined, yet she is also "black" even though her "black" father left the picture many years in the past, she was raised almost exclusively by her "white" mother, who Ms. Askew references in interviews.

    Of course President Obama was the first "black" President, even though he was also half white (maybe more), raised by his "white" family more so then the black side, but he's "black", not mualtto or some other term. Obama should be the first mulatto President, Simone Askew should be the first mulatto to lead West point, or is that correct term too derogatory to apply?

    I was married in 2001and that option was on the license, if it's good enough for me and you why not these people?
    I don't really like the term mulatto. My kids can be considered black or white depending on who they are with. They are bit lighter than the cadet although "black" people tend to pick up on their mixed race better than "white". My wife was in a park with my son when he was little and was asked by one of the "white" mothers if she was the maid/baby sitter. My wife was NOT amused.
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    Re: Simone Askew

    Quote Originally Posted by JMR View Post
    You might check Miriam Webster, which notes the term mulatto is now often deemed offensive. Perhaps its derivation from the term mule is the reason.
    People with parents of different races are bi-racial, or multi-racial.

    I believe I recall Obama discussing your first question. He looks like a black man. People perceive him as black. He never denied his background.

    It is distressing to see that Meaghan Markel is getting some grief in Great Britain, and she looks white. When we advance to the post racial society let me know.
    Yeah I saw that broach. Anyone with an ounce of sense could see that it is racist.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/josh-dawsey/
    “The whole episode is sadly unsurprising,” said a senior U.S. official familiar with U.S. policy on Ukraine. “It’s the epitome of impulsive, self-serving decision-making at the top that has undermined American power.”

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    Re: Simone Askew

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    For those not aware of who this wonderful young lady is:


    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...-point-cadets/

    My question is this, when do half black/half white (or any other race) stop being "black"?

    She's smart, a leader, strong and disciplined, yet she is also "black" even though her "black" father left the picture many years in the past, she was raised almost exclusively by her "white" mother, who Ms. Askew references in interviews.

    Of course President Obama was the first "black" President, even though he was also half white (maybe more), raised by his "white" family more so then the black side, but he's "black", not mualtto or some other term. Obama should be the first mulatto President, Simone Askew should be the first mulatto to lead West point, or is that correct term too derogatory to apply?

    I was married in 2001and that option was on the license, if it's good enough for me and you why not these people?
    I had a 1/2 dozen or so called mulattoes in the Navy working under me at one point or other, and they would punch you in the face back then if you used that term about them.

    It's was right up there with being called a nigger.
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    Re: Simone Askew

    Race is largely a social construct so I guess you cease being black when society stops seeing you as black.
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    Re: Simone Askew

    Malatto may not be a politically correct term, it may even be offensive, but bi-racial or some other term would be better then calling her "Black" which denies at least half of her existence.

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    Re: Simone Askew

    She should determine what she calls herself. It's obvious from the article that she is proud of her black heritage and her achievement of being 1 of only 20 black women in the class of 1000 to make first captain.

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    Re: Simone Askew

    Quote Originally Posted by JMR View Post
    She should determine what she calls herself. It's obvious from the article that she is proud of her black heritage and her achievement of being 1 of only 20 black women in the class of 1000 to make first captain.
    As she should be, she also gives her mother credit, yet the story doesn't seem to.

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