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Sign or X-mas Decoration????

Perotista said:
Okay. Moral of the story, never buy a house or live anywhere near where there is a HOA.
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Again. HOA's can in fact be a very good thing.
All that's required is that a person buying a home actually do a little homework first.

Not allowing signs is a pretty decent rule.
I have no problem living with that.

Prevents people from littering their yard with election signs.
 
Dragonfly said:
Again. HOA's can in fact be a very good thing.
All that's required is that a person buying a home actually do a little homework first.

Not allowing signs is a pretty decent rule.
I have no problem living with that.

Prevents people from littering their yard with election signs.
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I have no problem with election yard signs regardless of which candidates or party their for. That's all about exercising one's political speech. Now I always have been one that if I own a property some place that I ought to be able to do anything I want on and with that property as long as it isn't against the law. Such as running a brothel or making meth, etc.

If I want to work on my car and have it sitting on cement blocks for a couple of weeks while I do it, no problem. Around 15 years ago when we were moving from Morrow, we found a nice house fairly cheap for its size and acreage. But it was in a subdivision with a HOA. We quickly moved on. I've heard way too many horror stories about HOA. No thank you.
 
Dragonfly said:
Again. HOA's can in fact be a very good thing.
All that's required is that a person buying a home actually do a little homework first.

Not allowing signs is a pretty decent rule.
I have no problem living with that.

Prevents people from littering their yard with election signs.
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If they want to, that's their business. Free speech and all. Where do you get off thinking you get to control what someone else does with their own property?
 
Cephus said:
If they want to, that's their business. Free speech and all. Where do you get off thinking you get to control what someone else does with their own property?
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When it directly effects my property.

Maybe you don't care if Fred Sanford moves in next door to you, but I care.

Don't like it, don't buy a house in a neighborhood with an HOA.

Plain and simple.
 
Dragonfly said:
When it directly effects my property.

Maybe you don't care if Fred Sanford moves in next door to you, but I care.

Don't like it, don't buy a house in a neighborhood with an HOA.

Plain and simple.
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Which is fine, I already said I would never live under a HOA. But political signs don't affect your property values. Lots of things that HOAs try to control have nothing to do with property values. They have to do with control.
 
HOAs aren't necessarily a bad thing. The buyer just needs to understand what the rules are before committing to buying in the neighborhood.


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Dittohead not! said:
HOAs aren't necessarily a bad thing. The buyer just needs to understand what the rules are before committing to buying in the neighborhood.


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that's the look i was going for at one time. out of spite
bought a home about 30 years ago and soon after the closing there was a proposal to make this community a registered historic district
the use and maintenance of which was subject to historic district commissioners appointed by elected city officials
worse than an HOA, i assumed, since we home owners are not members of the commission making and enforcing the rules
i fought the historic designation but lost against vastly superior numbers
my basis for opposition was that shared by many in this thread; i did not want someone else telling me what i could and could not do with my own property

the properties on the periphery, not within the designated historic district, have largely been consolidated away from their previous single family residential use. the owners sold to avoid holding an unmarketable property surrounded by large multi-fam complexes
meanwhile, my wife and i continue to live in this 1953 era home, which could find its place in the smithsonian, it is so unchanged ... still the value of the property has risen 8X since its purchase. we continue to receive about a dozen unsolicited offers to buy it each month and have discarded such offers for years prior to the '08 crash
now i am forced to admit that the historic designation i fought against has actually been a good thing
but i can and do post signs for political candidates i support during each election cycle
my spouse, rather than the historic commission, would be the one preventing me from posting that "Jesus" sign shown by the OP
 
Dragonfly said:
https://dmlnews.com/family-told-remove-offensive-jesus-christmas-display-video-pictures/

How the hell is anyone truly "offended" by this???? Truly pathetic.

Now, from the HOA point of view, is it a sign? Looks like a sign.
What makes a sign, a "sign"?

(Lets not even talk about that teeny tiny nativity scene that reminds me of the mini Stonehenge in Spinal Tap. :lamo)

The jesus? Sign or X-mas decoration?

(please don't turn this into the evils of HOA's discussion it might turn into)
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HOA had rules and determined its a sign :shrug: sorry about their luck

It personally doesnt bother me one bit but I dont control the HOA nor would I ever make the poor decision to live in one. This what happens when you let others control your property beyond logical means.
Got no problem with HOA's existing but they need to be majorly regulated and their size needs to be greatly restricted.
 
If it's up year round it's a sign, if only around Dec it's a decoration .
 
It's a sign that some people just aren't equipped, either emotionally or intellectually, to live in a free society. It's a sign that we have truly bred a generation of self-absorbed, hand-wringing, bed-wetting snowflakes who wake up every morning of their miserable lives searching for something to offend them. It's a sign that we will never be able to produce enough safe spaces or therapy puppies to placate the perpetually aggrieved among us. And before anyone draws any conclusions, I'm an Agnostic who was raised Jewish and never believed in Jesus Christ. That said, anyone offended by the mere mention of his name (to the point of ratting out a neighbor to the HOA) has probably outlived their usefulness to society.

So here's your sign.
 
Just an X-mas decoration. Nothing too special.
 
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