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Happy Winter Solstice 2017 Everyone

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Hope you all enjoy the original holiday, and the ONLY reason we have any kind of festive holiday at this time of year just about anywhere in the world.


Blessed Be.
 
Dragonfly said:
Hope you all enjoy the original holiday, and the ONLY reason we have any kind of festive holiday at this time of year just about anywhere in the world.


Blessed Be.
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Blessed Be to you and yours as well! Off to work with a smile now :)
 
Dragonfly said:
Hope you all enjoy the original holiday, and the ONLY reason we have any kind of festive holiday at this time of year just about anywhere in the world.


Blessed Be.
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It's interesting that the solstice was a time of Celebration. It marked the point where the days stopped getting shorter and begin to get longer again. Signifying a return of crops and animal birthings

That is the reason Christmas was placed around this time of year.

I often wonder without any way of keeping track of time mechanically such as a clock how did the people realize when the solstice was. Different parts of the world have built buildings that cast shadows and work as annual clocks to indicate the solstice.

I get carried away thinking about this sort of thing. All these things I take for granted took thousands of years to develop.

And yes indeed happy Solstice to you as well.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I often wonder without any way of keeping track of time mechanically such as a clock how did the people realize when the solstice was. Different parts of the world have built buildings that cast shadows and work as annual clocks to indicate the solstice.
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Very humbling isn't it?
 
Dragonfly said:
Hope you all enjoy the original holiday, and the ONLY reason we have any kind of festive holiday at this time of year just about anywhere in the world.


Blessed Be.
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Literally none of that is true
 
Dragonfly said:
Very humbling isn't it?
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Yet at the same time awe-inspiring.

And it makes me wonder how it would look 3/4 thousand years from now.

Will humans learn how to transcend space and time. Will it be cyclical are we some Cosmic Atlantis that will be murmured about on Distant Worlds.

Yeah it's pretty humbling. But thinking about it really is fascinating.
 
Crovax said:
Literally none of that is true
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Well first it is the solstice. And this particular day has been marked with some significance in different parts of the globe for thousands of years.

Holiday maybe not. But very significant absolutely.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Well first it is the solstice. And this particular day has been marked with some significance in different parts of the globe for thousands of years.

Holiday maybe not. But very significant absolutely.
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Yes solstice has been an important winter holiday throughout human history but to claim that no other winter holiday would exist without it is foolish and ignorant
 
Happy solstice! Misty at Stonehenge this morning!

Newgrange, in Ireland was built long before Stonehenge, or the Pyramids, and is aligned so that the sunrise shines down the passageway into the mound, and illuminates the central chamber on midwinter solstice.
 
Crovax said:
Yes solstice has been an important winter holiday throughout human history but to claim that no other winter holiday would exist without it is foolish and ignorant
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Well the holidays we celebrate with regard to Easter Candlemass the we don't celebrate that one much here in the states Halloween and Christmas they're roughly a quarter a year apart.

And these coincide with Western holiday celebrations roughly.

So as the pagan world was converted to Christianity it would be important to allow them to celebrate their holidays that's why we celebrate Christmas in December and Halloween in October and Easter in the spring and again we don't really do Candlemass.

We've adopted some traditions from these Pagan cultures so there is some truth to that if the solstice was and September I'm pretty sure Christmas would be celebrated in September.
 
A happy pagan holiday to everyone!
 
CLAX1911 said:
Well the holidays we celebrate with regard to Easter Candlemass the we don't celebrate that one much here in the states Halloween and Christmas they're roughly a quarter a year apart.

And these coincide with Western holiday celebrations roughly.

So as the pagan world was converted to Christianity it would be important to allow them to celebrate their holidays that's why we celebrate Christmas in December and Halloween in October and Easter in the spring and again we don't really do Candlemass.

We've adopted some traditions from these Pagan cultures so there is some truth to that if the solstice was and September I'm pretty sure Christmas would be celebrated in September.
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Roman sources also associated December 25 with the date of the winter solstice, “which is why it is often claimed that Christmas was consciously grafted onto the feast of the Roman sun god,” says Philipp Nothaft, a fellow at All Souls College at the University of Oxford who is an expert on calendars. “Popular as this explanation may be, it receives little to no support from the extant sources.”
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Winter Solstice 2016: Why Christmas and Hanukkah Overlap | Time

‘The majority of modern scholars would be reluctant to accept any close connection between the Saturnalia and the emergence of the Christian Christmas.’
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Did the Romans Invent Christmas? | History Today
 
CLAX1911 said:
Well the holidays we celebrate with regard to Easter Candlemass the we don't celebrate that one much here in the states Halloween and Christmas they're roughly a quarter a year apart.

And these coincide with Western holiday celebrations roughly.

So as the pagan world was converted to Christianity it would be important to allow them to celebrate their holidays that's why we celebrate Christmas in December and Halloween in October and Easter in the spring and again we don't really do Candlemass.

We've adopted some traditions from these Pagan cultures so there is some truth to that if the solstice was and September I'm pretty sure Christmas would be celebrated in September.
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It very difficult for some religious folks to concede to facts.
It's just the way things are.
 
Dragonfly said:
It very difficult for some religious folks to concede to facts.
It's just the way things are.
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Well some people build their faith on shifting Sands. It's hard to admit that you believe in God because you want to. Human Nature can be an ugly thing.
 
Dragonfly said:
Hope you all enjoy the original holiday, and the ONLY reason we have any kind of festive holiday at this time of year just about anywhere in the world.


Blessed Be.
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It is certainly nice to see the days stop growing shorter.
 
Dragonfly said:
It very difficult for some religious folks to concede to facts.
It's just the way things are.
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That seems to be a general human trait.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yeah you did.
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No the title of one of the articles had Hanukkah in it however the quoted information was solely about the topic at hand, the relationship between winter solstice and Christmas or lack there of.

See it pays to read beyond the title, otherwise you end up looking foolish and ignorant.
 
Crovax said:
No the title of one of the articles had Hanukkah in it however the quoted information was solely about the topic at hand, the relationship between winter solstice and Christmas or lack there of.
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I don't believe your claim. I seriously doubt it is just coincidence.

See it pays to read beyond the title, otherwise you end up looking foolish and ignorant.
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The titles about the solstice.

I don't read links I always leak too terrible websites that bounce around and are impossible to read and then I have to watch ads no.

The last sentence of your excerpt was how some scholar as an opinion I disagree with him.
 
If its a day that pisses off Christians, it's a wonderful holiday indeed.
 
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