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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay81 View Post
    Maybe after you prove that you do.
    Prove what?

    Religion is mentioned in the 1st?

    That is self evident if you can read.
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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    It seems that many who call themselves Christian in America, believe that only their faith is meant to be protected under "religious freedom" laws?

    There are some who openly state that nothing but Christianity should be allowed out in public in this country. Others are a bit nicer, just saying that only Christianity and perhaps Judaism, should be favoured by government.

    We have outspoken groups blaming every disaster upon the lack of prayer and Bible study in public schools, of course those same groups would freak out if the Rig Veda or Quran were read in public schools.

    There are Americans screaming about "creeping sharia laws" while at the same time demanding the Bible be the foundation for all laws.

    Back in 2014, while still, Chief Justice on the Alabama Supreme Court, Roy Moore was saying these things.
    That's the way all religious zealots think. Which is why we have - 'Merica.

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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Musicus View Post
    First, define 'religion' as the founders meant it, then as it is meant now. If Islam, Buda, etc, fall under either definition then they are included. I think most religions would prefer that they were the only one to get public protection. Christians are no exception. But, they are all protected.
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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay81 View Post
    Where, except in your fevered imagination, did you come up with that? Can you provide a quote where I indicated such? No facts from you, ignored on this topic.
    Your words here don't appear to be related to my earlier comment, so I can't answer your questions without clarification.
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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    It seems that many who call themselves Christian in America, believe that only their faith is meant to be protected under "religious freedom" laws?

    There are some who openly state that nothing but Christianity should be allowed out in public in this country. Others are a bit nicer, just saying that only Christianity and perhaps Judaism, should be favoured by government.

    We have outspoken groups blaming every disaster upon the lack of prayer and Bible study in public schools, of course those same groups would freak out if the Rig Veda or Quran were read in public schools.

    There are Americans screaming about "creeping sharia laws" while at the same time demanding the Bible be the foundation for all laws.

    Back in 2014, while still, Chief Justice on the Alabama Supreme Court, Roy Moore was saying these things.
    First I am a Christian and I don't believe that.

    I don't think any religion should be favored by our government. And I'm okay with spirituality being a separate thing from practical education.

    We have people that blame all sorts of things on all sorts of other things some of them are completely false or made up. As far as reading religious texts in school outside of a historically significant usage of it I don't think that should happen. Regardless of holy origination.

    I personally I'm not worried about Sharia law is there are not enough Muslims here to enforce it. And I disagree with enforcing biblical law.

    I'm glad more didn't get elected although I am conservative I don't think that would have been good for our party. I think Trump should have openly not endorse to the man. And his views are bat**** nuts.

    Just to be glad he didn't get any farther.

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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Prove what?

    Religion is mentioned in the 1st?

    That is self evident if you can read.
    Mentioned in a negative context, such as no state religion allowed. Even one such as you should be able to puzzle out what that means. If you have further difficulty, seek help.

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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay81 View Post
    Mentioned in a negative context, such as no state religion allowed. Even one such as you should be able to puzzle out what that means. If you have further difficulty, seek help.
    Hey, look...

    Moving goalposts.

    You really don't realize how silly you look at this point. Do you?

    Post #11 makes no mention of negative context. It is just plain wrong and you look silly trying to defend that which is clearly wrong.
    Last edited by Fledermaus; 12-21-17 at 02:24 PM.
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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Hey, look...

    Moving goalposts.

    You really don't realize how silly you look at this point. Do you?

    Post #11 makes no mention of negative context. It is just plain wrong and you look silly trying to defend that which is clearly wrong.
    What you refuse to understand is that mention of religion in a negative context is like it not being mentioned at all.

    Like I never wrote this post.
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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    What you refuse to understand is that mention of religion in a negative context is like it not being mentioned at all.

    Like I never wrote this post.
    What post?
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    Re: Are Islam and Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs and Pagans protected by the First Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    What post?
    Hi Fled, nice to see you..

    Anything particular you were wanting?

    Or why didn't you knock?
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